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**Huysmans_666** · February 21, 2001, 05:07

Well here I am in my own thread, my question is bound to be posted somewhere but the barbs...which number is that is that civ[0] for example.

Because otherwise I might start making units for civ1 ! that would be not so nice

Small question aint it !

**Steve5304** · February 21, 2001, 11:52

its fairly simple....Right click on your Slic File and hit "open with" ......Then find Notepad or Wordpad...And figure it out from there....I think your gonna need an entire new slic...I think it may be impossible to edit that attribute to this game.And yes i remember the stupid Barbarians from Civ2.Always come and Land near your capitol. Coming on Trimes nd Cravals if i remember correctly.....

**Steve5304** · February 21, 2001, 11:53

its fairly simple....Right click on your Slic File and hit "open with" ......Then find Notepad or Wordpad...And figure it out from there....I think your gonna need an entire new slic...I think it may be impossible to edit that attribute to this game.And yes i remember the stupid Barbarians from Civ2.Always come and Land near your capitol. Coming on Trimes nd Cravals if i remember correctly.....

**Huysmans_666** · February 22, 2001, 05:13

This is whatI have so far, I programmed a loop to check every turn if one of the players has got an advance where they recieve a waterunit, ex steel.

If that is so than a random number of units is created, but I have to assign these units to the barbs, how the hell do I do that.

What player number does the barbs have ?

If I get this then pretty soon I will be able to make a working script, because it's vacation time !!! YEEEHAAWW !

I can program my mod all day and hope to have a beta ready for testing about the fifth of march.
I want to do it well and not just half of it

Hope you have the patience to wait, it's going to be good ! (I hope)

Still, anything is welcome !

Greeetinx and happy vacation time

**Immortal Wombat** · February 22, 2001, 15:59

I think player[0] is the barbarians.
Will your checking for advances lead to thousands of barbarian sea units, or will you do an "every Nth turn loop" or something ?

**Locutus** · February 22, 2001, 17:02

Good to see you picked this up, Huysmans
Actually, barbarian player is player 0, not player[0]. The difference may seem trivial but it isn't. player[0] is a variable that will change throughout the game (just as the rest of the player[] array) and it is the value 'inside' this array-element that determines the actual player. So to use the barbarians, simply use 0 where you'd normally use player[0]. However, if you need properties of the barbarians, such as how many units they have, you'll have to put them in one of these variables first, like this:

player[3] = 0; // barbarians (3 could be any number)
tmpValue = player[3].units;

Hope this helps,

Wouter

PS Vacation? What's that? I vaguely seem to recall the term but it's been such a long time, I don't even remember what it was...

**Dale** · February 22, 2001, 21:00

Huys:
At the beginning of every turn it's good to check whether the 'current' player is the barbs and then code them. EG:

Code:

HandleEvent(BeginTurn) 'CheckForBarbs' pre {
     if(g.player == 0) {
          // This is for code to perform when barbs turn
          // You could write code to find a spot to spawn from - "location_t barbtmploc;" and then assigning a location to barbtmploc.
          // Then using barbtmploc you create the unit
          CreateUnit(0, UNIT_CATAMARAN, barbtmploc, barbtmpunit);
          // barbtmpunit is the variable to store the new unit if you want to assign an order to it yourself rather than the AI assign to it.  "unit_t barbtmpunit;"
     }
}

Hope this helps mate.

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**Huysmans_666** · February 23, 2001, 04:29

Locutus, Dale : Great to see such great minds help out a little SLIC programmer.

I'm currently in the proces of just spawning a barb unit in the sea but even that doesn't work.
I use the makelocation, where the location is combined of a x and y.
I randomize the x and y between certain values ex 25
So I'm left with tmp_loc but then I have to check if the newly created tmp_loc is a water square...this is not a problem.
If it's not randomize another set of x and y and go over the loop once more.
BUT THE makelocation doesn't work it says out of bounds error !
No matter what I do !

I'll write your advice down, but first lets create a unit, that's the basic part, on water
I think that I'll write the advance checking routine at the beginturn routine, then I can make a loop which checks all players, if that player has one of those advances....then set a global variable to 1 and use this in the barbsturn routine.
Is this any good ?

I'm thinking of how much units to spawn, in the beginning I think not so very many, but in the end when everone has a fleet, than it's ok to spawn whole fleets of barbs....what do you think ?

So you see, there's a lot of work to be done

Locutus, don't you have springbreak ? (carnavalsvakantie) Sorry folks that was a dutch term and I don't know how to put it in english !

Well I'll hope to have a beta ready soon, I have some great ideas but this searching for water square doesn't work...GOe$#@@#$#$@#it !

See Y'all, I'll be on the forum a lot even though I have vacation !

**Immortal Wombat** · February 23, 2001, 07:30

quote:

Originally posted by Locutus on 02-22-2001 04:02 PM
Actually, barbarian player is player 0, not player[0]. The difference may seem trivial but it isn't. player[0] is a variable that will change throughout the game (just as the rest of the player[] array) and it is the value 'inside' this array-element that determines the actual player. So to use the barbarians, simply use 0 where you'd normally use player[0]. However, if you need properties of the barbarians, such as how many units they have, you'll have to put them in one of these variables first, like this:

player[3] = 0; // barbarians (3 could be any number)
tmpValue = player[3].units;

Which is why I leave SLIC alone as much as I can. I can't cope with all these weird terms!

**Locutus** · February 23, 2001, 08:09

Huysmans,

The explanation of the problem would become a whole lot more understandable if you posted the actual sourcecode as well (use to ubb-tag code to make it look understandable). Out of bound errors indicate that you made some sort of mistake in an array (you probably already figured that out), so double check every occurance of an array(-element) in your code. Can't say more about it until I see the source.

Carnaval? Ahh, that explains why half the people I encountered today were dressed up so funny Nope, here at the University of Twente we only have a (short) Christmas break and a summer vacation, the rest of the year you can take a day (or week or months or whatever) off whenever you want, but the schedule simply doesn't always allow this. Currently I find myself working 70+ hours a week just to get my schoolwork done, so not much time for vacation (or sleep for that matter)

**Huysmans_666** · February 23, 2001, 11:03

Hi guys,

Wanted to say thanx for all the support on this one, and indeed like you said locutus, it gets easier if you practice a lot.
And now it's even fun to do, I WANT it to work, so eventually it will !

Well, I just heared I have to work next thursday so I'll hope to post a version then, but don't count on it !

Locutus, the beta code will be coming to you soon, I just worked out the rough edges so it should take form any day know.
Only problem is...I code at work where I don't have CTP2 to actually test the stuff so I'm going home now with the script to test it (Hope my computer doesn't blow up ! )

I see little ideas about the pirates....WHAT WOULD YOU the users like in my script, tell me and I'll see to it that it gets in !

If noone talks to me, I just made this script for myself and noone else...kinda sucks then !

Well hope to hear from you soon !

greetinx, Huysmans

**WesW** · February 24, 2001, 01:19

Myself, I would like the code to make the Pirates sea-based complements to the land Barbarians. I would like for them to start appearing about 125 turns into the game, and keep appearing until the end of the Renaissance age, about turn 400 in my mod.
They would be created outside the boundaries of civs, like the Barbarians.

Ideally, I would like for both warships and transports to be available to the Pirates, with the specific types the same as those available to the civs in the game at that time.
The transports would be supplied with a couple of land units, comparable to the land Barbarians available at that time, and these transports would then proceed to the nearest city and unload those land units on the shore there.
Warships would pirate trade routes, pillage improvements and attack any ships they came across.

Specific enough?

**XMon** · February 25, 2001, 00:11

In the modern era I'd restrict the pirates to having PT Boats and perhaps Transports. I can't think of any terrorist orgs or guerilla armies that can afford large warships. I have read of drug cartels purchasing ex-Soviet subs so maybe non-nuclear subs could be included. While we're talking boats...I'd love to see a sprite of a military transport ship (the CTP transports look like cruise ships) and then make the current Transport only be able to carry civilian or stealth units. Just an idea....

**Immortal Wombat** · February 25, 2001, 01:04

Everything Wes said, but not the ending at the end of the Renaissance, there are still Pirates on the oceans of the 21st century. They should however be vastly reduced in number with the invention of modern warships (ironclad perhaps).

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