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**quinns** · December 16, 2002, 13:16

I have an open slot now, Mathemagician. To make it official, I challenge you, NOW!!

(So as not to violate the "challenge only three up" rule, I am challenging down.

) You can decline the challenge if you wish. But I strongly suggest that we play using the dual-duel format. It is the fairest. Choose whatever other settings you like, but dual-duel equalizes all.

**Mathemagician** · December 16, 2002, 19:13

na, i dont like dual duel as i stated before.
it just supports your aggressive military strategy too much quinns

thats not what i call 'equalizing' my friend

i will start the game and send you, then post the stats here.
but to compensate you for the loss of your favourite format, i will at least turn ruins off and wonders too

if the latter doesnt crash your program like it did with shaved ape.
how do you turns wonders off then quinns ?
i just replaced the wonders.txt with a big 0.

**Mathemagician** · December 16, 2002, 19:55

okay here are the settings:

i just replaced the OBSOLETE_ADVANCE flag of all wonders except the wormhole sensor with toolmaking so none of them should be possible. if otherwise, please dont build.

diff: deity
barb: max
size: gigantic
poll: on
blood: off (only wonder allowed: wormhole sensor)
civs: 8 (so 6 AIs)

map settings (i swear i used a, though somewhat modified, random generator for them

)

wet/dry 20%
warm/cold 90%
ocean/land 10%
island/continent 20%
uniform/diverse 100% (non-random, my standard)
goods 90%

i placed us in seat 5 and 8 respectively to not have any of us benefit from the river tendency of the early civs but to still have us somewhat distant from one another.

i hope this is all fine for you.
if not please tell me before looking at your first turn

or at least right away after

have fun

**quinns** · December 16, 2002, 19:56

Originally posted by Mathemagician
na, i dont like dual duel as i stated before.
it just supports your aggressive military strategy too much quinns

thats not what i call 'equalizing' my friend

I see. Because we both would know the starting position of the enemy. Too true. I guess that does favor the militaristic. Oh well, I tried!

Blue definitely has, at least, a slight advantage over Orange though. No question about it. Sometimes it is more than "slight". Hence the attempt to equalize with the dual-duel...

No matter, though, Mathemagician. Go ahead with everything just the way you want it!

It will be a good challenge.

**quinns** · December 16, 2002, 20:01

I see that we cross posted. Okay then, fine. It looks like, (from the settings), that we will be playing on a bunch of desert-like islands. That's fine -- sounds like a NAVY game!

Good luck, Mathman, and thanks for setting it up!

**Mathemagician** · December 16, 2002, 20:02

Originally posted by quinns

I see. Because we both would know the starting position of the enemy. Too true. I guess that does favor the militaristic. Oh well, I tried!

tsetsetse

Blue definitely has, at least, a slight advantage over Orange though. No question about it. Sometimes it is more than "slight". Hence the attempt to equalize with the dual-duel...

blue over orange even ?
i didnt know that.

but to compensate that we are now in pos 5 and 8.

No matter, though, Mathemagician. Go ahead with everything just the way you want it!

It will be a good challenge.

yes it will.

oh but you wouldnt call it cheating if first bought a UNIT then changed to a BUILDING like i accidentally once did in MP

**quinns** · December 16, 2002, 20:44

Originally posted by Mathemagician

oh but you wouldnt call it cheating if first bought a UNIT then changed to a BUILDING like i accidentally once did in MP

Ummmm .... No, because you are losing money/prod there, not gaining it on the exchange. I would just call that .... a mistake!

**david42one** · December 16, 2002, 21:39

Dang, Mathemagician, that's pretty decisive I'd say. What was the AI set on? Are you ready to defend your ranking? I'm calling you out

-David42one

**Frozzy** · December 16, 2002, 23:08

A lot of new SuperLeague challenges are being issued. I'll get the news to you when the dust clears.

**Mathemagician** · December 17, 2002, 07:27

Originally posted by david42one
Dang, Mathemagician, that's pretty decisive I'd say. What was the AI set on? Are you ready to defend your ranking? I'm calling you out

-David42one

what is pretty decisive ? i didnt get that i think...
which AI ? in my game vs. quinns ? the positions ? or the difficulty ? well, we're deity and took pos 5 and 8 so the AIs are the rest or what do you mean ?

as for my ranking, well it could be better

hmm. im quite full of games for my tastes. i will answer that later on today if you dont mind...

c u

**TheBirdMan** · December 17, 2002, 07:45

Originally posted by Mathemagician

what is pretty decisive ? i didnt get that i think...
c u

Guess its about your victory screen shot you posted the 16th.

**david42one** · December 17, 2002, 08:30

Originally posted by Mathemagician

what is pretty decisive ? i didnt get that i think...
which AI ? in my game vs. quinns ? the positions ? or the difficulty ? well, we're deity and took pos 5 and 8 so the AIs are the rest or what do you mean ?

as for my ranking, well it could be better

hmm. im quite full of games for my tastes. i will answer that later on today if you dont mind...

c u

Odd, when I posted that your screenshot was the last post. Anyway, that is what I was referring to, and of course you have time to think over my challenge

-David

**quinns** · December 17, 2002, 09:33

Originally posted by redbull
A lot of new SuperLeague challenges are being issued. I'll get the news to you when the dust clears.

Okay, redbull. I'll update the ladder once you post them here.

**quinns** · December 17, 2002, 09:34

Turn 1 to Math
Turn 17,18 to Bird
Turn 55,55 to Paulno1

**Mathemagician** · December 17, 2002, 10:02

Originally posted by david42one

Odd, when I posted that your screenshot was the last post. Anyway, that is what I was referring to, and of course you have time to think over my challenge

-David

oh, then the AI was prince or king i assume. cant remember anymore. oh, ape set up the match i think. yes, that was it. ask him

as for your challenge. as long as you dont mind that my turns take 2 days sometimes (rarely it should be) i accept.
you can choose any settings you like, except the dual duel please

donut would be nice but i can live with earth world too.
as long as i get informed at the start of the game (and remember the settings later on

) everything is okay for me.

though i like to play my own civ, the powerful Dornheimer, which requires me to start, its okay if you set it up. just give me the turkish then.

c u
rainer

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