Ctp Pbem Rankings 12th April 2002

[Solver]

BTW, Hell is not a curse word, if you ask me .

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Solver


BTW, Hell is not a curse word, if you ask me .

Oh, Ok, I think its actually a location, near Solver Hall!!

Now back to the thread!!

Question:

Has anyone played PBEM with scenarios?..Just wondering..is all..a thought...

[Solver]

Hehe, LOL.

Troll: I need your vote, while you're here. I'm taking the ratings back over, and will now reinforce some rules. I've been suggested to start fresh - start ratings as new, with everyone back at initial ratings. Yes or no?

Please vote .

[J Bytheway]

Originally posted by Troll
Question:

Has anyone played PBEM with scenarios?..Just wondering..is all..a thought...

Yes, the Phoenix game was played on the Med Mod but unfortunately it fell apart due to technical problems. I've also played a one-on-one game with a friend (non-'Poly). It's much easier when there are fewer people playing. I tried to get a PBEM going with FlameFlash to test my Mars Mod but unfortunately PBEM scenario games are not possible on Macs (due to lack of v1.21 hack). I was on the verge of coming here and asking whether such games can be or have been rated. (Of course, not that one in particular becasue it would have been two player).

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Solver
Hehe, LOL.

Troll: I need your vote, while you're here. I'm taking the ratings back over, and will now reinforce some rules. I've been suggested to start fresh - start ratings as new, with everyone back at initial ratings. Yes or no?

Please vote .

Actually, since your now moderating or perhaps I should say playing statitician I would say INFORM everyone how you are setting up rankings-points system. ADVISE all involved that this is the way it is going to be, no harm, no foul and I think all will accept whatever system you have set forth, you seem fair enuff, just level what it is going to be!

VOTE=YES

Troll

[blackice]

Count me out and remove my name the old rankings su**ed big time. Or better still I will play one game I am winning and remain on top like Klair for life...

This system is far better then the last one another note I see no fairness in starting people at lower rankings than the rest. I also see no need to start the rankings over again at all.

I figured you had this in mind after everyone agreed to the changes...

If you plan on doing this to online remove my name there too...

[TheBirdMan]

If we start again, then I think (just as Blackice?), that all players starts at the same rank. It will not take long time, before "things" are sorted out.

2nd. I would like "inactive" players to be moved to a second list, where only the inactive are shown with whatever their score was when they left.

3rd. To avoid those, who just drop in and out within a month or two (another kind of inactives): You have to have participated in at least xxxx number of rated turns to be moved to the 2nd list. Else your score is lost in the deep space forever. Anyway, I wouldn't like to se 10 players shown on the inactive list with their starting ranks.

4th. A hell-of-a-job, but it can be done. The new list COULD INCLUDE ALL OLD REPORTED RATINGS.

[Solver]

Thanks guys.

Generally, as some might remember, a fair set of rules was used in 2000 , and I think it could again be reinforced.

You know, Bird, I think we can agree on everyone starting with the same rating now, of, say 20. I can believe it will be sorted out soon... not agreeing about the inactives, though. I don't think they should be moved, instead, they will just be getting score decreases, if they don't play at all.

Dealing with subs - that I already told someone, and got it in mind .

Yeah, will then post fullrules as I see them. You know, guys, it's such a pleasure to return to the ratings, to my ratings .

[jpww]

Blackice has a point, but it's fair to let whomever volunteers to do this job decide what the rating system should be...

[TheBirdMan]

Addm. to my latest post:

5th: I think Blackice should be rated !

Hey folks - I mean this. He IS one of the very best - maybe better than I, but certainly better than the old mooselover Lung, the "portable" Klair and the newborn kangarooboxer Mobius (a pre UK-gentleman ).

Now who to insult next

[blackice]

but it's fair to let whomever volunteers to do this job decide what the rating system should be...

Solver asked me if I would change the rankings system my answer was no. The system was agreed upon by all and as it stands is very fair. I would never change it without all agreeing to the changes. Like Keygen pointed there are some loose strings. These are easily adressed have to date these request's have been ignored. It would be very chaotic if each and every volunteer changed the rankings IMHO. Volunteers are also subject to Solver wanting the right to do it, obviously.

As far as being ranked if the system goes back to the old way I want no part of it. This ranking is by far more fair. Since it came to play we have finally seen movement in the ranking system. Those that play are awarded and those that don't simply drop in the rankings anyway. One person with one game and winning can no longer dominate the rankings in first place.

[jpww]

Originally posted by TheBirdMan
Addm. to my latest post:

5th: I think Blackice should be rated !

Hey folks - I mean this. He IS one of the very best - maybe better than I, but certainly better than the old mooselover Lung, the "portable" Klair and the newborn kangarooboxer Mobius (a pre UK-gentleman ).

Now who to insult next

Are you trying to pick a fight?

[Solver]

I was in an unfair position, controlling the ratings all the time .

However, as I see it, a player going in the third place in 5 games will receive more ratings that the one going on 1st place in one game.

[jpww]

What if we simply set a threshold for the least number of games in which you have to be taking part to become rated.

[Solver]

It isn't too fair, IMHO. Instead, a player who doesn't play for a long time gets penalties. And the way formulas work, it's impossible to dominate the ratings with 1 or 2 games, if there's another player with 6 or 8 games. I'll be testing various layouts out...