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**notyoueither** · April 22, 2006, 20:36

please ask if you want an earlier version.

For simming our civ
as of end T1, 4000BC
as of end T2, 3960BC
as of end T3, 3920BC (has same name as T2 because I glitched; this attachment is updated)
as of end T4, 3880BC
as of end T5, 3840BC
as of end T6, 3800BC with info from hut map
as of end T7, 3760BC with wine tile
as of end T16, 3400BC with London as Buddhist Holy City

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stormbringer map bc-3400.civ4savedgame (92.2 KB, 176 views)

**Arrian** · April 24, 2006, 10:59

Great summary thread, NYE. Thanks!

-Arrian

**Hot Mustard** · April 24, 2006, 16:26

Some email administrivia:

In our Gmail account, I created contacts for each team.
(except for Vox, who hasn't provided an email address yet)

Let's please conduct any diplomacy from that channel, so that everyone can access it, there are no PM issues, etc.

I also created a Group called 'Save to The Horde' for forwarding the save, which has The Horde's email address and snoopy's. (I'll add Aeson's if he wants.) So turn players have merely to start typing in 'Save'... in Gmail, it will autofill, and they know the correct addresses have been included.

The only other wrinkle is future diplomacy with Sarantium, who had two members insist in email inclusion for the saves, despite having a central email address. If this practice is also desired for diplomacy, we can create a Group for them at the appropriate time.

**Blake** · October 19, 2006, 20:14

Strategic Overview 1

Metastrategy.

Presently our plan is to expand to a tight core of four cities:

This city layout secures ALL of our floodplains for immediate workage, without the need of any culture beyond that of EotS's palace. It includes a minimal road network allowing defenders to move between our cities quickly.

The cities of Wines and FP2 are nearly identical, in that both work 4 floodplains. Wines is to be founded first since it has bonus city tile commerce and is strategically important. However we need to found FP2 to unlock a 4th floodplain tile for Wines.

Furs is a city founded to secure the +1 happiness from the furs and also work the mined copper and gain the free commerce from the furs + river city site. It will likely never grow above size 4. None the less it is an important city to bring in that critical happiness and it has tertiary benefits like shielding EotS from barbarians.

This planned core will provide everything we need to quickly research to Construction and construct an army of catapults for the clean elimination of Vox.

**Blake** · October 19, 2006, 20:32

Strategic Overview 2

Micro Strategy:

EotS build order and configuration:

EotS is to be terraformed with 3 mines and will work the 3 mines and 2 floodplains, for 12hpt with 0 food surplus, eventually the floodplains will be cottage'd. EotS will not be whipped in the immediate future, as whipping is less productive and less flexible than the mines.

EotS major builds: (military units will be inserted between builds as required)
Worker - to pre-improve Wines.
Settler - Wines
Worker - to pre-improve FP2.
Settler - FP2
Settler - Furs
Granary

There is contention on the order of our 3rd worker and 2nd settler. It depends largely on how many skirmishers we train (whether or not our two existing workers can keep up with city growth).

Wines / FP2:
These cities are identical and will use largely identical builds. Both cities will have a single farmed floodplain improved in advance. They will work 3 additional floodplains, which will be cottaged ASAP.

Build Order:
The build order for a quad-floodplain city is very simple, max food, grow to size 4, whip granary.
While growing the cities will invest hammers into a skirmisher, the skirmisher can be poprushed in an emergency but it is best not to as this significantly delays the development of the city.

Furs:
Furs requires no terrain improvement beyond that which is already needed - the mined copper.
It will work the mined copper and grow very slowly to size 2.

Build Order:
Undetermined. Since Furs has no development future it will simply train whatever we need, most likely this will be militiary units, possibly proceeded by a barracks.

Empire Worker Actions:

Our first worker will work in the south-west, chopping, cottaging a floodplain or two and connecting resources.

Our second and third workers will work their way approximately counter-clockwise around the floodplain belt, building cottages together.

**vmxa1** · October 19, 2006, 22:07

You guys are amazing. Nice work.

**Hot Mustard** · October 19, 2006, 22:57

Awesome!

and again...

Awesome!

**Cort Haus** · October 20, 2006, 13:19

C'est Magnifique!

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