Turn 81, 875BC

[Hot Mustard]

Turn 81, 875BC

Units

Warriors
Spinebreaker: 2.0/2 9/10 Exp (W2). Healed!
Thug: 2/2, 0/2 Exp. Forted (EotS)

Skirmishers
Cantona: 4/4 0/2 Exp. Forted on Forest Hill
Schumacher: 4/4 0/2 Exp. Forted on Hill

Axemen
Axemen I*: Forted in Wines (we need the happiness)
Axemen II*: Fort (protecting worker)
Axemen III*: Fort on Road Hub?

Scouts
Scout I: Heal

Workers
Worker I: Cottage
Worker II: Cottage


Science
Current (35/turn +7): Construction (42/500) (10 turns)


Cities

Eye of the Storm (Size 5)
WF: 1, 44, 74, 7, 78 (same)
Growth (-/turn): 0/30
Production (12/turn +2): Axeman (35/35) done, start Axeman

Winestrom (Size 4)
WF: 1, 2, 4, 7 (growth) (add a plains forest?)
Growth (6/turn): 05/28 (? turn)
Production (1/turn): Granary (27/60) (33 turns)

Taz City (Size 2)
WF: 2, 41 (same)
Growth (5/turn): 23/24 (1 turn)
Production (1/turn): Skirmisher (12/25) (13 turns)


Diplomacy
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[Hot Mustard]

Re: Turn 81, 875BC

Originally posted by Hot Mustard
Eye of the Storm (Size 5)
Production (12/turn +2): Axeman (35/35) done, start ???

Another Axe? Setter? Worker?

[Arrian]

Another axe, IMO.

-Arrian

[Krill]

Axe seems prudent. We will require a barracks before we finish constructuion however, so I would suggest something along the lines of Axe->Barracks->Axe->Axe if we have time.

[Arrian]

A barracks is, what, 80 hammers? If so, then some rough calculations say that we go Axe-Barracks-Skirm-Catapult.

-Arrian

[DeepO]

Is a barracks going to make this much of a difference right now? I mean, we're not in a position to attack anyone else after Vox, and our first attack is going to be the Voice. A barracks costs 3 cats or 2 axes, wouldn't either of those help us more with conquering the Voice?

When it comes to Vox city 2, a barracks would be helpful as it would add a promotion (not 2) to some of our units. But that city shouldn't be too hard to take anyway.

I of course agree we need a barracks soon, but it doesn't seem to me that the units we're going to use now are absolutely needed to get to 5 xp: before long, we'll be able to build better units, and it remains a question if we're going to do a lot of upgrading at first. There's no one around, so we might be better of to build new units from scratch.

And a good thing our scout survived. I don't know, but I had a feeling he would die to that warrior.

DeepO

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by DeepO
And a good thing our scout survived. I don't know, but I had a feeling he would die to that warrior.

DeepO

If the Scout had died I would have surrendered to the RNG and given up. After the huts and then the attack on the Voice, it owed us one.

[Arrian]

Hmm... barracks is 3 cats? Cats are how many hammers? I thought they were around the same price as axes, but I can't remember right now.

-Arrian

[Krill]

Barracks is 60...and the difference isn't 3 cats so long as it gets built before construction, it's a little less than 2 unpromoted axes...and all of the cats that we build in EotS will be barrage, or city raider, and we will be building a fair few cats...

[Krill]

cat = 40 hammers, Barracks = 60, Axe = 25...all IIRC, I'm kinda used to values on a different game speed...

[Godel]

cat = 40h
barracks = 60h
axe = 35h
skirm = 25h

I always play on normal speed

[Arrian]

Ok, then.

Turn81 - Begin axe. 2h overflow +12h/turn.
Turn82 - 14h
Turn83 - 26h
Turn84 - Axe complete, 3h overflow, begin barracks
Turn85 - 15h
Turn86 - 27h
Turn87 - 39h
Turn88 - 51h
Turn89 - barracks complete, 3h overflow, begin skirm
Turn90 - 15h
Turn91 - Skirm complete, 2h overflow, begin skirm.
Turn92 - 14h.
Turn93 - Construction complete. Skirm complete, 1h overflow, begin Cat.

Alternate:

T89 - barracks complete, 3h overflow, begin axe
T90 - 15h
T91 - 27h
T92 - Axe complete, 4h overflow, begin skirm.
T93 - 16h, const complete.
T94 - Skirm complete, 3h overflow, begin cat

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Do we have whipping plans for Wines and Taz?

-Arrian

[Krill]

Wines gets whipped for 2 pop next turn. Taz gets whipped for 2 pop when it reaches size 4. After that nothing was set in stone IIRC.

[DeepO]

hmm... I should play more it seems

But still... even non-promoted, we're going to lose 1 or 2 cats before all the rest have a fair chance of winning against damaged archers. If they don't have iron or copper, we don't need a barracks, it's just a choice.

Actually, we don't need that many units anyway, it seems. Maybe we should consider plonking down the furs city before going for the Voice. That might do us more good in the end.

DeepO