Team Info and Contacts - Rabbits

[mostly-harmless]

Hi Rabbits,
following up from our little in game chat, what would be your ETA for Horse Back Riding? We would be able to offer you Monarchy in return.

TRB

message sent.

mh

[Sullla]

In-game chat with Rabbits:



The one line had to be edited in because the Rabbits person spoke to "All" instead of just us, for some reason in there. It was pretty important, so I added it back in!

I hate these in-game chats, because I'm always afraid I will say something stupid and damage relations. Anyway, I think it's safe to say that we definitely do not want to be waiting around for 25 turns to get Horseback Riding. We'll either be past our crisis or dead at that point. Is there any other way we could potentially be useful to Rabbits? Like, we give them a tech now, and then they research something for us in return?

Maybe something like Calendar tech? What about this: we tell Rabbits that they run zero science for the moment. We gift them Monarchy, then Math, as we complete research on them. Then, they start plowing that cash surplus into 100% research on Calendar, and knock it out in ~15 turns while we research Construction/Horseback Riding/whatever.

Would that work, or am I completely crazy? I feel like we have to try and get something out of this horribly backwards team that poses no threat to us.

[Swiss Pauli]

It can't hurt to propose something like that deal to Rabbits. However, we must have CS from PAL before we start gifting Rabbits techs...

[regoarrarr]

Yeah - I think that would work and would definitely agree to wait till we have CS before we do anything.

Though they couldn't be sure it was us that gifted anything, right?

[Dreylin]

Well "No Tech Brokering" would allow them to narrow it down to us and Imperio (assuming Banana are as useless as we suspect) and unless we are deliberately misleading on the timings, I think they'd quickly decide that it was us.

Particularly since we're trying to sell them on the idea of "maintaining balance" on this continent...

[regoarrarr]

Just to probably confirm, they are probably building a settler in the capital since they mentioned in-game I believe that their research would be dropping due to re-settling a city soon.

[Swiss Pauli]

My proposal:

Hi Rabbits,
Further to our in-game chat we have some ideas and advice for you:

Firstly, we all know you're in a tech hole. So were Templars until they landed an interesting monopoly tech (Metalcasting). We propose that you do something similar, and target Calendar. We have a couple of Calendar resources to hook up, and we'll happily pay you in advance with Maths & the rest of Monarchy (in roughly 10 turns). Templars have two or three Calendar resources (and would surely give you MC in return), Imperio has none (but they do have Marble and may well be interested in the Mausoleum), but we haven't met Banana, so you'll need to fill in the blank here. You would need to go to 0% research now to stockpile cash for a run at Calendar. It's a rather left-field proposal, but desperate times means desperate measures.

We've noticed that PAL's pop has just dropped considerably, and as they've recently traded for Construction, we advise you to expect incoming Catapults.

One tip for your next city: if you can settle a city on the north coast then it will allow trades routes with our continent which would give a welcome shot in the arm to your economy.

We look forward to your feedback.

[ruff_hi]

nice but change 'whole' to 'hole'.

[regoarrarr]

Looks good - send it!

[Sullla]

I agree that we should send the message. Not at all sure that we would have a trade route with Rabbits should they settle the north coast, however; wouldn't it have to go through PAL borders, and be blocked by their war against Rabbits (?) Maybe not. Anyway, we have no clue where they're going to settle, so it doesn't hurt to mention it.

PAL will probably roll up Rabbits in the next dozen turns and this will come to nothing, but hey, it doesn't hurt to try something with the game's most pathetic civ.

[Swiss Pauli]

Unless PAL have settled on the north coast since we passed through then Rabbits can get trade routes with our continent.

I'll send Rabbits the email in the next couple of hours.

[sunrise089]

Are we just trying to be nice to the Rabbits here? Otherwise I see no reason to orchestrate their tech trades for them. In my mind, simply the prospect of RB gifting them 2 techs up front should be more than enough motivation to get them researching whatever we want without the need to direct them to improve the Templars via a trade.

[Swiss Pauli]

Email sent.

@sunrise - our main aim is to slow down PAL's domination of their continent whilst getting something for ourselves, and for that we need to boost Rabbits. Let's not forget we're asking them to research a peaceful tech whilst their at war, so we need to make a strong case for the benefits of doing so. Templars would get a couple of sugars, and the banana (if they bother settlling near it), so we're not exactly giving them a edge (we gain dyes which fit well with our cheap theatres).

[mostly-harmless]

Ah, a bit too late.
There is no contact between Templars & Rabbits!
And who said Banana is useless. They really gained momentum lately and have comparable population to Imperio and us!
They also tech traded a lot with Templars lately.

mh

[Zeviz]

Let's ask them to ask Banana how they met Templars, just in case we can arrange Banana's boat to meet us.