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  • Do we gain anything with OB? I'd wait for a message and an explanation.

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    • OB doesn't currently benefit us, but it will if we make peace with Imeprio or capture a couple of their cities. It doesn't really benefit them either, since they can get intercontinental trade from Imperio instead.

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      • Rabbits logged in while I was in game. I tried to talk to them and they ignored me. How rude.

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        • OB with Rabbits does not benefit us unless we have OB with Imp or Tem and have OB with PAL. PALs city of Navajo blocks all trade to Rabbits.

          For now I agree to not accept OB from Rabbits, if it comes with no explanation.

          mh

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          • Originally posted by sunrise089 View Post
            Rabbits logged in while I was in game. I tried to talk to them and they ignored me. How rude.
            I've had the same thing in the past. Also when rabbits log in I always get a "rabbits are using a different version of the game files, is this OK?" pop-up.

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            • Email from Rabbits:

              RB,
              Not sure what is going on here. None of our boys knew anything about the canceled deal until your email arrived.

              According to our records the open borders deal was canceled in 520AD. We had 4 logins during 520AD and no-one canceled open borders from our end.
              Are you 100% sure that none of your teams 17 logins during 520AD accidently canceled the deal??
              Please clarify the situation as soon as possible.
              In the meantime we have offered open borders again to get our relationship back on track.......
              Cheers,
              Rabbits
              Personally I think we should re-open borders with them. They gain very little from it with their 4 or 5 cities. We, of course, gain nothing at the moment but at least we could repair our relationship and possibly make some trades/sell techs in the future. Also rabbits seem to be the most vocal players, with people like Rob Warham in their team. We would probably like them on our side in case any public disputes occur. [EDIT: And when we get paper we could do with their map because it will have more PAL cities than we know about for the C&D department. We could give them a tech for it.]
              Last edited by sooooo; April 29, 2009, 03:40.

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              • Agree to re-open borders.

                mh

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                • Yes, let's re-open borders.

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                  • Here's an email draft:

                    Dear Rabbits,

                    OK, let's re-open borders. None of our team closed borders - not sure what happened but let's forget about it.

                    Congratulations for adding a new city to your warren and keep fighting the good fight against PAL. If you need anything let us know. And don't trust those mayans!

                    Cheers,

                    Realms Beyond

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                    • Actually two cities. Eisenburg (self founded) & Magyar (captured barb).

                      We would like them to cancel their gold gifting to Imperio and come back to tech trade with us, like they agreed initially.
                      Furthermore we might tell them that we are also at war with Templars (which they have not even met yet!)

                      mh

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                      • I closed borders with PAL and then m-h (?) said that they were still open. I could have closed borders with Rabbits by mistake ... pretty sure I didn't, but I might have. Or m-h (?) could have seen the OB with Rabbits and thought they were PAL ...

                        either way - OB is ok by me.
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                        • No, when I logged in, we already had closed borders with PAL but the Gems deal was still active despite Ruff saying he canceled it. Then I went ahead and canceled the deal. I don't recall opening any diplo screens with Rabbits.

                          mh

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                          • Well, I think we can all agree it was a good idea not to send that "rot in your hutches" email now.

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                            • Yes.

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                              • We cold really do with their 135g cash reserve in exchange for HBR.

                                mh

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