Team Info and Contacts - Banana

[mostly-harmless]

Fine.
mh

[mostly-harmless]

Banana's gems are now much more interesting for us.
We can and should offer Wine or Silk to them.

mh

[Strow]

I think we need to make a stronger agreement with these guys we are quickly running out of people that want to trade with us.

[Dreylin]

updated

Banana,

We believe that Pal have decided to get off the fence and take sides in the Western Continent war ... and not on our side. You'll have noticed their recent tech trade with Imperio - pretty one-sided - and we had made them a much better offer. Now they have cancelling our Ivory supply after pretence of negotiation.

In response, we have canceled OB with them (costing them ~20commerce) and all our ongoing trades. As a result, your second source of Gems are very interesting to us. We have a spare Wine right now, and will have additional Silks in the near future.

We will have Drama next turn.

TeamRB.

[Zeviz]

Sounds good.

[mostly-harmless]

Banana,

Pal have decided to get off the fence and take sides in the Western Continent war ... and not on our side. You'll have noticed their recent tech trade with Imperio - pretty one-sided - and we had made them a much better offer. And they also traded Civil Service to Templars allowing them maces again ina very one-sided deal (for Theology). Now they have cancelling our Ivory supply after pretence of negotiation.

In response, we have canceled OB with them (costing them ~20commerce) and all our ongoing trades. As a result, your second source of Gems are very interesting to us. We have a spare Wine and Silk right now.

We will have Drama next turn.

TeamRB.

mh

[Strow]

I really think we need to set up a tech for tech long range agreement with these guys. Something more in writing is really needed right now further down the line than guilds and gunpowder.

[sooooo]

I have sent the version in mostly_harmless' last post. We can discuss more concrete deals in another email.

[ruff_hi]

email from banana ...

Team Realms,

I saw the action on the Relations screen last turn and wondered how that went down. I can't say that I am surprised by PAL's actions, seeing that you are their closest rival in most aspects of the game currently. Good for you for cancelling their open borders --- I wish I could do the same, but I am bound by their NAP for another 30 turns.

A few other things:

1. Gems. I checked the diplo screen and it looks like you already have Gems. However, if you find you still need them, I would be interested in trading for either resource you mentioned (though I'd have to check to see which would work best for us).

2. GP Guilds Gambit...... failed. We now have a Great Scientist that we intend to sit on for awhile. I want to grow our cities a bit more while planning a possible Golden Age in 10-15 turns.

3. Next trade. I'd love to lightbulb a tech with our GP, but I am not using Louis Pasteur to discover Paper! That's why I'd like to have us work on Music/Paper research immediately unless you have an absolute need for Guilds. We can discover Paper in 5 turns, but would take 9 turns to get Guilds.

4. Drama. Let me know if we can get Drama right away -- it would really help us to have it. I'll keep track of the math to make sure we are keeping things even techwise.

5. Rabbits? I noticed that your borders with Rabbits are closed. Has it always been that way, or did they take some actions this turn as well?

That's all I can think of at the moment. I am always interested in reports about how you are holding up, but understand if there are things you cannot share. For the record, know that Team Banana has absolutely no interest in joining forces against your team, and we're here to help you however we can. Please get back to me when you have the time.

Regards,
Donovan Zoi

[mostly-harmless]

1. Tell we popped a new source of gems. If he is facing happiness problems, I am fine with gifting him wine or silk for free for a period of time.
2. He should probably consider to use his GScientist for an academy.
3. I don't want us to delay Nationalism again. We have to do without Guilds for a while. We can tell him we want to make a dash for Taj and cannot delay any longer.
4. I am fine with getting him Drama now. We really want to prepare him for the upcoming end of his NAP.
5. Rabbits closed borders to us because they are teaming up with Imp & Tem. We regret we helped him with free techs earlier.

Add some pleasantries and maybe ask if he intends to settle W of Doal (Fish resource). Also ask if his scouting galley sees any evidence of a naval build up of either Imperio or PAL or of PAL actively shipping units across the channel.

mh

[sooooo]

3. I don't want us to delay Nationalism again. We have to do without Guilds for a while. We can tell him we want to make a dash for Taj and cannot delay any longer.

His suggestion was not that we should change from nationalism, but that he research paper or music before guilds. That would be bad for us. I don't understand why guilds is still 9 turns for him if he was running 0% science. mh - can you detect from treasury numbers whether he was in fact doing that?

We could really do with him researching guilds before paper. There's no way to force him, since he would still get guilds before we get nationalism, but we should state that we have a strong preference for guilds soon!

[mostly-harmless]

He was in anarchy in T132. And last turn he spent 60 raw GNP on the espionage slider. I guess that is probably 50% slider setting. He also got 38gpt cash.

He told us that he will knock out those espionage points while waiting for the GP.

We can tie the request for Guilds-first with our delivery of Drama to him now.

mh

[ruff_hi]

sent this quick reply ..

Donovan

Would you believe it - we popped gems last turn. I've posted your email in our forum for the team to consider. Expect a reply soon.

Cheers,

Ruff for Team RB

[Dreylin]

I have no problem with giving him Drama ASAP; we still owe him a 1000b credit for not trading with Imperio.

I would warn him that with Pal chasing Nationalism before Liberalism, they are likely planning to bulb MilTrad and have Curassiers ready when their NAP expires ... it is in his interests as well as ours to reach Gunpowder ASAP.

[sooooo]

We don't owe the gift because that is taken care for in the nationalism - guilds trade. They can have drama, but I agree with mh that we should lean on them to research guilds before paper or music in return.