Team Info and Contacts - Banana

[sunrise089]

Well they only have a 51% chance of an engineer. But we did agree a "no Taj" clause anyway, so that's OK.

BTW, we are rather screwed if we get a great artist in 3 turns.

Oh, I don't know. I would enjoy capturing the Templar border city and then bombing it

[mostly-harmless]

Hi,
to better understand the game physics, can you confirm that you still get trade routes with our cities?
Thanks
TRB

This is to know whether Banana (and therefore PAL) still gets trade routes with us. It is clear that PAL benefits a lot from our trade routes while we get nothing in return.

mh

[sooooo]

Fine by me.

[mostly-harmless]

We should ask for PAL's next tech as well, now that they got Education.

mh

[mostly-harmless]

In-game chat with Banana:

[T-hawk]

Oooooh. PAL is on Nationalism next? They will beat us to Taj Mahal. (and would have done so even had we bulbed Philo first rather than doing the Golden Age.)

I propose that we recommend to Banana that they not lightbulb Guilds, but save the Great Engineer for the Taj Mahal instead. We now can't get Taj ourselves. But I think we can get Nat and trade it to Banana before PAL completes Taj. Better for us to hand Taj to Banana rather than for PAL to get it.

Thoughts?

[sunrise089]

I agree. Anyone think PAL might want to delay Liberalism and take Mil-trad with it and then overrun their continent with Curaisars?

[sooooo]

I think PAL could probably get the wonder before we even get nationalism. It's a long research time without any intercontinental trade routes. They are probably pre-chopping it. We do have the option of stopping their supply of marble, but it's not a good idea because they could just as easily stop supplying us elephants.

[Dreylin]

We could close borders with them, but I guess we have to try and keep them on our side for a while.

[sooooo]

We can't close borders on them since the benefit is small (they would lose some income, but not much since they just get reassigned) and we lose our resources (ivory and gems). Also if we sign a peace deal then it could be tricky to get them to open borders again.

[regoarrarr]

Having open or closed borders with them doesn't affect our resource trades does it?

Also, couldn't we close borders and just say that it automatically happened with the declaration of war?

[sooooo]

We should take the discussion about PAL's open borders to the PAL thread.

[ruff_hi]

email from banana ...

Realms Team,

A few updates:

1. PAL has begun researching Nationalism and should have it in 6 turns.

2. Are you still interested in researching Drama for us? It looks like we'd then owe you after the Nationalism/Guilds trade. I guess this can be shelved until Templars actually discover it, but I am interested in your offer.

3. Before you answer that, I talked to one of your spokesmen online (the one who calls himself "Realms Beyond") and we determined that all of your trade routes are now local, while ours (and presumably PAL's) still allow the more lucrative foreign routes. Could your lack of Optics be the reason for this? Personally, I am not sure, but I'll bet you know.....

4. We notice that you now have two sources of Dyes. We have an unconnected source of Gems along with the Incense we promised you. Can we get Dyes from you once we have both connected?

I think that's it. Godspeed in the battlefield!

Respectfully,
Donovan Zoi

[sooooo]

I don't mind trading them dyes. We could make it a permenant dyes for incense trade. However, we should be sure to make it two separate gifts, since it seems that resource for resource trades could result in both of our resources being traded due to the same bug as before.

I think they wanted to research paper after they finish guilds. We could suggest trading paper for drama? (obv we'd give drama before they get paper). That's heavily in our favour but I think we're working well together and it won't be a problem.

[sooooo]

Draft email.

Hi Team Banana,

We believe we lost intercontinental trade routes because of the war starting. We won't get them back until we sign a peace deal or we get astronomy.

We will research drama. We can get it to you shortly. After guilds what are you researching, paper? We can do a drama for paper trade if you like.

Instead of an incense gift from you we can just make a permanent dyes for incense trade. We do not need gems currently as we are getting them from PAL.

Realms Beyond