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The Essential Civ 3
Last year Apolyton members produced The List, a 500 page document sent to Firaxis that included innumerable suggestions for Civ 3. By following a credo of "If Only One Idea..." that list was successful in getting at least some of its ideas into the game prototype at Firaxis, and perhaps more.
The problem, if there was one, is that 500 pages of ideas can't possibly be included in the game. Also, it doesn't give anybody a clear idea of what MOST fans think Civ 3 should look like. The Essential Civ 3 list will. The EC3 will reveal to Firaxis and fans alike what the majority of players believe are the ten most essential changes for Civ 3.
The EC3 is not intended to be just a list of ideas. It is a list intended to give a unified vision. Where The List told everything players want, the EC3 will clarify what players value. Something the designers can refer to as a guide when weighing the thousands of suggestions. And something to give the fans the confidence of knowing that, if nothing else, at least we showed 'em what we wanted.
The EC3 demands that each fan who participates ask themself the hard question, "What is the ONE THING I want to see in Civ 3?" By doing that, where the List was 500 pages, the EC3 will be ONE PAGE (well, about). So welcome, and whether this is your first time here or whether you're a seasoned veteran, we want your ideas!
1. Nominating and Discussing
Until the end of the day, March 1, you will find two submission threads in this forum:
Essential Civ 3 Fixes
Essential Civ 3 New Ideas
As long as they're open, you may nominate ONE IDEA in each thread. Each idea nominated in these two threads will be given an ID number and cut and pasted by Korn469 or Raingoon into its own thread for discussion. THIS IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS EVERYONE'S IDEAS! This phase will last until 11:59 EST, Wednesday March 1, 2000.
2. Seconding the Nominations
After the March 1st deadline to submit Fixes or New Ideas all authors have until 11:59 EST, Friday March 3rd to discuss, revise, and reconsider the final draft of their idea. This is the draft you want submitted for nomination to the final list. And, if ultimately included on the final list, this is the draft that will be sent to Firaxis.
Starting on Saturday March 4th we will post the final nominating threads, using the final draft of each idea. You may second up to four other nominations (you are assumed to have seconded your own). The authors should be sure their ideas have been edited to their liking. Once this phase begins, you will not be able to change the language of your idea again.
To second a nomination, simply post to that particular thread "I second this." After one week the top 5 nominated ideas in each category will be compiled together in a list of 10 ideas.
3. The Final Vote
After the initial nominating and discussion and after the final nominating and "seconding" process, Mark or Dan will put up the list of 10 ideas on a poll in the Civ 3 main page for another week, and everyone will vote for or against the entire Essential Civ 3 List. If the list does not get a 60% majority it will not be considered "essential" and will NOT get sent to Firaxis. If it does receive a 60% endorsement, then off it goes!
It is important to remember that there will be a lot of great ideas that don't make the Essential Civ 3 list -- possibly even your own. And that's ok because the design team at Firaxis has probably already seen all our ideas many times before. We aren't really trying to send them one more list. They've already got some pretty good ones. Hopefully, we are sending them a picture of what we, the fans, want to see changed the MOST -- what will make it a true Civ 3 and not a "Civ 2.5." So, in the final vote, even if your idea is not in the top 5 of either category, ask yourself if the spirit of your idea is.
Right now we're in the heat of the discussion phase. No matter what your idea, we want to hear it! And we want to hear what you think of the ideas already posted. To post and read what's currently being discussed, here again are the two main threads:
Essential Civ 3 Fixes
Essential Civ 3 New Ideas
Remember, the Essential Civ3 List will stop taking submissions at 11:59 EST Wednesday March 1st 2000. Happy posting!
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by raingoon (edited February 24, 2000).]</font>
The Essential Civ 3
Last year Apolyton members produced The List, a 500 page document sent to Firaxis that included innumerable suggestions for Civ 3. By following a credo of "If Only One Idea..." that list was successful in getting at least some of its ideas into the game prototype at Firaxis, and perhaps more.
The problem, if there was one, is that 500 pages of ideas can't possibly be included in the game. Also, it doesn't give anybody a clear idea of what MOST fans think Civ 3 should look like. The Essential Civ 3 list will. The EC3 will reveal to Firaxis and fans alike what the majority of players believe are the ten most essential changes for Civ 3.
The EC3 is not intended to be just a list of ideas. It is a list intended to give a unified vision. Where The List told everything players want, the EC3 will clarify what players value. Something the designers can refer to as a guide when weighing the thousands of suggestions. And something to give the fans the confidence of knowing that, if nothing else, at least we showed 'em what we wanted.
The EC3 demands that each fan who participates ask themself the hard question, "What is the ONE THING I want to see in Civ 3?" By doing that, where the List was 500 pages, the EC3 will be ONE PAGE (well, about). So welcome, and whether this is your first time here or whether you're a seasoned veteran, we want your ideas!
1. Nominating and Discussing
Until the end of the day, March 1, you will find two submission threads in this forum:
Essential Civ 3 Fixes
Essential Civ 3 New Ideas
As long as they're open, you may nominate ONE IDEA in each thread. Each idea nominated in these two threads will be given an ID number and cut and pasted by Korn469 or Raingoon into its own thread for discussion. THIS IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS EVERYONE'S IDEAS! This phase will last until 11:59 EST, Wednesday March 1, 2000.
2. Seconding the Nominations
After the March 1st deadline to submit Fixes or New Ideas all authors have until 11:59 EST, Friday March 3rd to discuss, revise, and reconsider the final draft of their idea. This is the draft you want submitted for nomination to the final list. And, if ultimately included on the final list, this is the draft that will be sent to Firaxis.
Starting on Saturday March 4th we will post the final nominating threads, using the final draft of each idea. You may second up to four other nominations (you are assumed to have seconded your own). The authors should be sure their ideas have been edited to their liking. Once this phase begins, you will not be able to change the language of your idea again.
To second a nomination, simply post to that particular thread "I second this." After one week the top 5 nominated ideas in each category will be compiled together in a list of 10 ideas.
3. The Final Vote
After the initial nominating and discussion and after the final nominating and "seconding" process, Mark or Dan will put up the list of 10 ideas on a poll in the Civ 3 main page for another week, and everyone will vote for or against the entire Essential Civ 3 List. If the list does not get a 60% majority it will not be considered "essential" and will NOT get sent to Firaxis. If it does receive a 60% endorsement, then off it goes!
It is important to remember that there will be a lot of great ideas that don't make the Essential Civ 3 list -- possibly even your own. And that's ok because the design team at Firaxis has probably already seen all our ideas many times before. We aren't really trying to send them one more list. They've already got some pretty good ones. Hopefully, we are sending them a picture of what we, the fans, want to see changed the MOST -- what will make it a true Civ 3 and not a "Civ 2.5." So, in the final vote, even if your idea is not in the top 5 of either category, ask yourself if the spirit of your idea is.
Right now we're in the heat of the discussion phase. No matter what your idea, we want to hear it! And we want to hear what you think of the ideas already posted. To post and read what's currently being discussed, here again are the two main threads:
Essential Civ 3 Fixes
Essential Civ 3 New Ideas
Remember, the Essential Civ3 List will stop taking submissions at 11:59 EST Wednesday March 1st 2000. Happy posting!
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by raingoon (edited February 24, 2000).]</font>
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