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  • #16
    Yes, there is a way to reduce it. Well, first of all, the 1.29 patch reduced it indirectly by making techs more valueable (less depreciation, I think). But I digress... the AI to AI trade rate should be in the editor (not sure where, I've never touched it). If you want the AI to trade with itself the same way it trades with you, set it to 100 (the chieftain default).

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    • #17
      The GL is very powerful in most games, but not in all. If you only have contact with 2-3 pathetic civs, then the only reason to build the GL would be to to deny it to others (and get culture). In all other games, it really rocks!
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      • #18
        GL is alright, but usaly by the time I get it up, I'm not that far from education anyway.


        When I do get it, I don't cut down on science, because I still want to resaerch somthing other then what the other civs are going for.
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        • #19
          hi ,

          nope the GL aint useless , in fact you can use it to spend your money on troops and walk around a bit , ....

          have a nice day
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          • #20
            I prefer to let the AI build it. Then I capture it-- this way you can get techs even beyond Education. Don't research Education if you're planning to capture it (doh@!)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by playshogi
              I prefer to let the AI build it. Then I capture it-- this way you can get techs even beyond Education. Don't research Education if you're planning to capture it (doh@!)



              So if you capture this after you research Education, it will still work?

              Or did I miss somthing?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Thrawn05

                So if you capture this after you research Education, it will still work?

                Or did I miss somthing?
                I suspect playshoggi was referring to capturing it before you discover Education, but after many AI civs do. If you are a seriously backward civ (say still in Ancient Ages when AI's are nearing end of MIddle Ages) and you capture the GL, you will (assuming contact with lots of AI civs) get a significant rush of technology discovery on your next turn. This technology rush will often take you up to and through Education -- it seems that the GL effects become obsolete after the discovery of Education, but that you can discover every tech that 2 known civs have on the same turn as the GL becomes obsolete, regardless of the fact that you discovered Education in that same turn.

                I've personally gotten techs beyond Education (like Astronomy) and have heard tales of getting techs up to Magnetism / Military Tradition.

                Catt

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Catt


                  I suspect playshoggi was referring to capturing it before you discover Education, but after many AI civs do. If you are a seriously backward civ (say still in Ancient Ages when AI's are nearing end of MIddle Ages) and you capture the GL, you will (assuming contact with lots of AI civs) get a significant rush of technology discovery on your next turn. This technology rush will often take you up to and through Education -- it seems that the GL effects become obsolete after the discovery of Education, but that you can discover every tech that 2 known civs have on the same turn as the GL becomes obsolete, regardless of the fact that you discovered Education in that same turn.

                  I've personally gotten techs beyond Education (like Astronomy) and have heard tales of getting techs up to Magnetism / Military Tradition.

                  Catt
                  hi ,

                  indeed it could give us a certain tech lead , to a certain limit , but it would be smart to use it

                  and yes you can get to military tradition with problems

                  have a nice day
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                  - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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