fane7's game

[Solomwi]

Everyone can have a try , please . If you haven't enough selfconfident to build more Wonders, please see my uploaded savefile in UP, Using Greece I built almost all ancient Great Wonder in Athens.

vmxa, you just don't get it. It's perfectly clear that self-confidence is the only thing keeping us from building every wonder, and in the same city to boot.

"Hmmm, 3 more turns to the Great Wall, and nobody else is close. Do I dare build it? No, I better not."

[Master Zen]

sounds like a panag DL playing a hoax

(come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised at all... btw check out how he'll magically appear afte this post)

[Tassadar500]

Remember fanes7 also stated he was one of the best players?

[vmxa1]

I noticed he posted his 3150 leader at CFC and it was closed as it is a no no to talk about it before you finish the ancient era.

Then in the spoiler again. On the 13th he says he finished the age, but no post since???

[fanes7]

Originally posted by Dominae


It's as though we're in the Olympics, and you're using steroids. Sure, you might be faster/stronger than me, and you might even think its okay for you to be doing what you're doing. But for you to brag about how good you are, when really its just the drugs that give you an edge, is silly.


Dominae

Obviously, You know the rule clearly too.

In the Olympics, if you are using steroids or other unknow-drug , and NOT ANY apparatus can detect it . So you are innocent .

Before you have evidence, everybody is innocent in supposing.

In fact , there are never evidence to proof anybody cheating by his savefile (As I said the savefileA&savefileB) . You can't judge one man be cheating by your own supposing. And as I said before, if there is a jury to judge this thing , I would like to attend.

[Tassadar500]

Once again no clear response

[fanes7]

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Thanks the Master Zen 's savefile, but I still see that only I downloaded his savefile, I'm very disappointed, but I 'm still post my step that the GL appears. Because it's a not-huge map, I don't play it since that .

Master Zen has a name like that , maybe you know some Han's word, hehe.

[Dominae]

If you use some drug in the Olympics that lets you run the 100m dash in under 5 seconds, I'm sure everyone would doubt your "innonence", regardless of any test that proves your guilt.

It's the same thing here. With no clear explanation of how you're getting all the Ancient era Wonders so easily, I think it's fair to assume that you're not playing straight.

This is all actually more akin to science than law. A scientist that finds the cure for cancer but cannot tell anyone how he does it will not be taken seriously. Regard us as your scientific peers: now, make us believe your claims. The burden of proof is on you. Saying "You guys should believe me by default" will simply not do.


Dominae

[Master Zen]

Does having a huge map make any probabilistic difference in generating a leader than a standard map? Nope.

Here's Han's word:

Han Solo: Bring 'em on, I'd prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around!

[fanes7]

Please sure you download Master Zen 's savefile !

Because of my slowly PC, I set game like this, before you play the game, pls set it as mine.



4000BC:
Build city, and Worker go west ( Worker-w), set scient-rate - 0, and point your research aim in Monarch.

This is the 4000BC 's map&situation , nobad place.



3950BC:
Worker - road

3900BC:
Change city set, 3shield 2food.

For rapidly producing warrior, pls set city like this at 3900BC:




3850BC:
Nothing need do .

3800BC:
Build first warrior (W1), warrior go west (W1-w).

After you built a warrior, pls set city like this at 3800BC:




3750BC:
w1 - w ( Warrior 1 go west )


3700BC:
Worker - w , w1 - wn(WestNorth , for there is a lake at west)

3650BC:
Worker - r (road), w1 - w ( on a hill)

3600BC:
Population growed to 2 . Built 2nd Warrior.

so we can build warrior in 3 turns, change the city set 3shield 3food. (after 2 truns, change the city 4shield 2food to build warrior in 3 turns.)

w1 - w ( find hut) , w2 - w.


3550BC:
w1 - w ,
w2 - w - wn ,
worker - wn


3500BC:
w1 - w
w2 - w
worker - r (road)

Culture expand .

This is 3500BC map , pls check it with your own map , thx.




3450BC:
Built 3rd warrior. Change the city set 3shield 3food.

w1 - w
w2 - w
w3 - w


3400BC:

w1 - N
w2 - N (find barbarians)
w3 - W - WN - W
Worker - SE - S

This is 3400BC map , pls check it , thx.




3350BC:

w1 - find hut ( 3 barbarians)
w2 - w
w3 - w
worker - R

change the city 4shield 2food.

3300BC:
Built 4th warrior. Get a Veteran.
City will grow population , so don't change it. still 4shield 2food.

w1 - w
w2 - w
w3 - w
w4 - w

3250BC:

w1 - w
w2 - w
w3 - N
w4 - w - WN - W
worker - w ( on hill)

3200BC:
Population became 3. set happy-face 10%, change city to build Barrack.

w1 - W (find Ba)
w2 - w
w3 - WN
w4 - N
worker - R

As we find babylon , we must talk with them , and we find they have some new technologies , so we need trade.

Before you trade with Ba , pls set city like this , so you can get more from other Civ in trade.




This is the trade with Ba:




After trade , since we haven't enough gold , and we get all we want , so declare war with Ba.

Change the city 6 shield 1food to build Barrack


3150BC:
w1 - S
w2 - WN ( kill a barbarian)
w3 - N
w4 - W (kill a barbarian)
change the city 5 shield 2food.

This is the 3150BC map, pls check it , and after you sure no-error , pls pass this turn .

[fanes7]

Originally posted by Dominae
If you use some drug in the Olympics that lets you run the 100m dash in under 5 seconds, I'm sure everyone would doubt your "innonence", regardless of any test that proves your guilt.

It's the same thing here. With no clear explanation of how you're getting all the Ancient era Wonders so easily, I think it's fair to assume that you're not playing straight.

This is all actually more akin to science than law. A scientist that finds the cure for cancer but cannot tell anyone how he does it will not be taken seriously. Regard us as your scientific peers: now, make us believe your claims. The burden of proof is on you. Saying "You guys should believe me by default" will simply not do.


Dominae

;-) as I post above , ( if you downloaded Master Zen 's savefile ), I told you how to cure cancer . And if I like , I can run the 100m dash in under 5 seconds at any time , but the success is not the guilty evidence .

20 years ago or more before this , nobody can believe man can run the 100m dash in under 10 seconds , but now many athlete can do this .

The things is always changing .

Don't believe miracle , why do you build wonders ?

Pardon me, maybe you are too old to believe any glorious thing.

[Theseus]

Not glorious, fanes7, that's a reload.

[Konquest02]

So basically, your strategy is to have a nice start, build warriors like mad and send them directly at the other civ, without any knowledge of who they are, how far they are and how powerful they are...? With the raging barbs, you get a couple of promotions on the way and get a leader with your first elite win (a 1/16 chance)

As per the above screenshots and report, I do not see any leader or any evidence of someone being able to trigger a leader. You don't even have an elite warrior. And you think to win on a regular basis against AI spearmen...?

Good luck trying to convince someone else!

[Master Zen]

And to think I actually re-installed 1.14 just to see if this wasn't one big hoax...

[vmxa1]

I am too old to believe in miracles, but maybe I can run this tomorrow, with no reloads.
This requires that you win all the fights and get those promotions. this can not be guaranted by straight plaing. So this stategy will work some times, but not always. There is no unknow tactics revealed, we know how to micro mange citizens. It is a very aggresive style, but not unheard of or unseen.