Apolyton Empire: Story Part II

[civman2000]

February 24th, 1403
Given that the assassination attempts were on the Grand Chief and teh two people in line to inherit the throne, Iroquois officials have begun investigating the third and fourth in line for the throne.

[Sheep]

The Archbishop went into Counsul Easthaven's chamber. 'My lord this is where the rebels hold out, and this is where the traitor Melian is hiding.........'

The Consul looked on and nodded.

[Mellian]

TO all of Apolyton:
Latentus, fromer domestic advisor is also wanted for high treason. We are also putting out drawings of what he looks like and would like any with information to step foward. They is a 100 gold reward for any information leading to the capture of this man and also Mellian, even if you think they look somewhat like the person, report it aways. Even if you think that the person you see is not them, these people are good at tricking people and making them think that they are someone else then who they truely are.

March 1403

After reading the latest government flyers, Mellian thinks to herself...

why is it that i get the impression that they mind readers or something?

That same day, she spoke with her boss, as Lois, discussing the matter concerning of these flyers. She told him that she is worried that the military will arrest her for simply looking like someone she isn't...especially if some moron like Joe goes off telling them about her.

She also said, "if i get anymore trouble over these flyers, i may have to leave Vegeimon City like she left Vikan"

"Don't you worry Lois, i won't let them get ya. Besides, your the best Barmaid i ever had and would hate to lose ya to these 'Consuls'..." Clark, her boss, replies (OOC: don't expect a love story now )

So she stays around, after being confident about her bosses' position on the matter. Yet, doesn't stop her from making arrangements to leave, if the pressure continue to rise...

OOC: she as a room at the Inn, where stays... so the Inn is a home and workplace... also means she won't go out in the open very often either...

the new English leader is Prime Minister Cromwell of the first English Republic ...and the possible American and English alliance won't be a friendly one either.

[Easthaven I]

OOC: Ok, if you don't pay taxes and you are an Apolyton citizen living in Apolyton then that is illegal, there is no loophole. Your post does seem a little exaggerated to me but that's ok. Also, you don't control the military so what you said doesn't happen. And about 'your kind' what is your kind? And why would people leave Apolyton currency for a lower standard of living? And how would people survive well if they don't have Apolyton currency? Bartering is possible but only if the people of this 'secret society' live very close to each other. And I doubt this society is big enough to be spread out throughout apolyton while still having enough people to barter with. So that would mean this society is in one distinct location where they are close enough to barter and share so they could survive without having one ounce of money. Even then you have to pay taxes, you own property well you pay taxes. If you are a damn citizen you have to pay taxes, I see no loophole in this. You either pay or you don't and if you don't you break the law.

As for the military, well it is indiscriminate. It isn't going to create a unit just solely for 'a kind'. You get all mixed up when you enlist. It does not promote individualism or discrimination. If you are a soldier then every other Apolyton soldier is your brother. The Military does not want individualists, they want teamplayers with individual soldiers contributing something to the team. The unit isn't made for the soldiers, the soldiers are made for the unit.

Mellian, and how does England magically become a republic after forever being a monarchy? I would have found England more inclined of a new king rather than totally destroying their historical, traditional, and glorified royalty. Just wonderin...

[Easthaven I]

To Jack:
I am impartial to any kind of government change. As long as it ensures the people's safety and the nation's security.

[Apep]

March 1403
Apep I had for some reason he did not quite understand, headed for Vegimon City. Due to the fact that he had kept away from the road all the way there, it had taken him months. Finally though he had made it.
"Boy, am I thirsty" he said to himself and walked into the first bar he encountered. He ordered a beer and was surprised to see a familiar face deliver it to him...
(OOC: I apolodise for yet another unlikly escape, but I wanna kill Apep I myself, plz!)

[Mellian]

OOC:
easthaven, i already stated before that England was having internal troubles and risk having civil war. monarchists versus parliamentarists. parliament won with a lot of support and Cromwell is currently the transitional prime minister, until a formal election is organized. Apolyton doesn't need to know what goes on all the time...and will be a burden to me Hey, mmtt made it happen, faster then i have planned... but i also agree that take some time before England recovers bit more, especially after a quick damaging civil war. America may discuss the possibilities with England, but doesn't seriously mean they will go to war with Apolyton.

first, you or jack or mmtt as a monopoly on the military and second, unrealistic that everyone in the Large military will support the Consuls...or that their support couldn't have changed since the Consuls took power.
so nothing wrong that icarus does a fw minor things concerning the military.

about taxes....pretty to collect taxes within cities, but bit harder out in the boneys. Cooperatives doesn't automaticly to lower quality of living too.... which wouldn't make big of difference in comparison to their quality of life before the co-ops.

but i agree that they couldn't grow and spread to fast too.

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March 1403

It took a minute before she realized who she recently served, meaning that she didn't look surprised or showed that she recognize him. Hey, she is quite busy tonite and not into spending to much time serving anyone.

What is the crazy fanatical Apep I doing here??? He sure didn't seem to be in the best of health...physically, as his insanity was never questionable according to her opinion.

Best she can do is just ignore him, or simply avoid giving any indications she recognized him or let anything out that she actually is Mellian... especially now, with the rise in pressure by the Consuls.

why does the world have to be so small........?

OOC: why does the Apeps have such interest in her or their luck to find her

easthaven, why is it Apep II locked up again after helping ya?

what happened to Harrington other then being arrested for having republic views? i'm planning to use her...and her ex-unit next post.

[mmtt]

OOC: ex-unit is under Giovanni Vodka command at York/Newcastle. Harrington dunno...

I won't post much because I'm not so interested in this story.

[Mellian]

OOC: then make it interesting

[civman2000]

April 16th, 1403
Grand Chief Hiawatha is very ill. (OOC: his food was poisoned).

After a vast investigation, the Iroquois authorities have discovered that the current heir to the throne was involved. He has been executed.

civman has successfully gotten himself smuggled into Apolyton after the execution. He is residing in Gowoasanwein and using the pseudonym "Siginew Frattol." Within 2 months he will be fluent in Apolytonian.

[Jack_www]

To All Apolyton:
Many people think that they can get out of paying taxes by joining co-ops and not using Apolyton currency. I am here to tell you that this will no longer be the case. Anyone who trades, must caculate the value of the goods they reviece, and consider it as income and pay taxes based on that. If you do not comply you will be thrown in Jail as a result. All in Apolyton must pay taxes for the things the government does for the people.

To Consul Easthaven(secret):
I grow tried of running all of Apolyton, I would like to see if we can end this consitent rebellion that many groups in Apolyton want to have. It appears to me that the people of Apolyton want a republic, and soon people may begin to hate us, after all we have done for Apolyton. I would welcome any ideas you have on this matter.

OOC:
Mellian, the Consuls are the ones that run the millitary, so how could he do something with it? It is different if part of millitary rebells or something like that, but making units on our own is not what happens in the millitary, they put you in what ever unit they need you in, not give you our own special unit for you and your friends.

[foolish_icarus]

Latentus, due to the fact that he is being charged with treason, has gone into hiding/more actively trying to stay unnoticed. He no longer goes out into public, even in disguise, but he still has contact with the outside world, he is by no means isolated. He just is staying away from any public situations. And incidentally, the cooperatives are continually operating more and more without the government’s support. Taxing barter: extremely difficult. Changing records to reduce taxes will happen, there is no way to know about it or stop it without spending more money than you would normally lose.
(If people trade items that have the same value, do they have to pay taxes on that even though neither side makes money?)

OOC: concerning the military: I’ve edited my post. I still hold that it was reasonable, but if as the supreme military commander you wish to now allow that, that’s certainly within your character’s power, though I don’t see why it would be done. It wasn’t creating a separate military, it wasn’t creating a unit for ‘a kind’ (which I don’t recall mentioning) it was merely organizing based on how well people cooperate, which would mean that people from the communes would naturally be put together. Even though your character has disallowed this, many will still retain their ideas and old loyalties and group themselves as much as is possible. You don’t control these people utterly, you haven’t brainwashed them, they aren’t your mindless zombies, you merely issue them orders. Certainly some people from the cooperatives will succumb to the general order, but these are very zealous people, many will maintain their individuality, even if they can’t express it in the military.
Concerning the taxes: Look again at my previous posts. The people in the cooperatives did indeed pay taxes (mostly property taxes but since the concept of income tax very seldom existed in that period I figured property taxes would be low to compensate for the burden of the income tax). “If you are a damn citizen you have to pay taxes”: I wasn’t aware there was a tax for merely existing. You yourself said that taxes would be at a lower rate for peasants, well: these people now have the income of peasants. The mechanics of it all works, what I said is perfectly realistic. The cooperatives aren’t huge and everyone in them is united by ideology, so standard of living isn’t decreased that much. They are joining these societies because that’s what they feel is right and what will lead to the best result. The cooperatives are not one giant physically connected society, (though there is interaction between them and the rest of Apolyton, they aren’t entirely isolated) they are bunches of people in different locations who share some common ideas and some ways of life. I haven’t claimed their growth is exponential or they have taken over; just that they exist and are growing, that’s all I wanted to establish.

Also, if you were going to charge Latentus with something, why did you wait so long?

[Easthaven I]

OOC: Why is Apep II locked up? because he is, it doesn't concern mellian. I have my reasons, he ain't gonna be locked up forever, chill out. Besides he still has another character roaming around. As for Harrington, she was one of the political prisoners set free. So she's all yours.

As for the military, we didn't say 100% were 100% loyal. We just said the great majority were loyal and trustworthy. Why wouldn't they be? Many reasons why they would be then why they wouldn't be.

As for taxes, well yes taxes for peasants were lowered but they weren't nonexistant. I said they were low but they still have to pay what needs to be paid.

The Consuls do have ultimate power over the military where they say what goes and what doesn't go. We don't take over ARM and say pro-consul ARM members are growing and getting stronger in the Republican movement...We create the policies and such for the military and we say what is to be discouraged and what is encouraged. And the intentional grouping of 'cooperatives' in units and such won't happen, its the way the military is. Like I said it is indiscriminate, once you enlist you are placed where you are needed or just where there's an open slot, not where or who you want to be placed with.

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To Consul Jack (secret):
I share the same ideas as you. I never liked politics, never thought I'd end up being so involved in it. Besides, I'm not good at it. I'm happy running the armies. A transition to a safe and secure government should be a new priority. I have no idea what kind of government should be put in place, like I said I'm a military man not a politician. You have my full backing on any decision you make. Maybe we should invite a meeting of all opposition parties, a great summit of Peace. Except for the council of Apolyton who are just barbarians. But all the others should be welcomed at this summit. As well as the people, representatives picked from among the people to speak for the people. All the secret organizations and such do not speak for the people, they speak for themselves. Therefore, we should pick out representatives from among the people, peasants and rich alike.

Field Marshall Easthaven I

[Sheep]

The Archbishop still waits for Easthaven's response. After telling the Counsul of Melian's whereabouts, he still awaits to see what will become of him

[Easthaven I]

"Well Archibishop, I appreciate your loyalty, not to me but to Apolyton. And I am glad you came to me. Men have now been sent to keep an eye on Mellian to see if what you say is true. We now can see them all and they do not know nor do they see us. Do not tell anybody of our meeting. Also Archibishop, I would like to ask you if you'd be willing to enlist some of your priests into the military to act as chaplains, so we can bring some religion to our soldiers. So we may give our soldiers somebody to talk to when they need somebody to listen. I am not a very religious man but many soldiers probably are, I do not believe there are any athiests whatsoever once the swords begin clashing and musket balls begin flying. Therefore, for the sake of adding to morale I would appreciate if some of your priests became chaplains. So, take care of the church Archbishop, give religion to those who want it. If you need any aid I will try my best to give it. If that is all then it was good of you to come, you are free to speak to me anytime about any issue."

He stood up.