SNESA2 Reborn: Ad Infinitum once more.

[SKILORD]

ULS diplomats have left Bahgdad.

[Jonny]

To Italy, Australia, NUSSR, ULS:

I strongly urge you not to pursue war with the Persians. They have done nothing harmful to the world, and your claims about their government are unjustified. In fact, by declaring war on Persia, you are making problems worse, as they will probably use weapons of mass destruction in defense. Persia does not need a 'regime change', you are simply making things up in order to take their land, and we do not approve of that.

GDFR diplomats remain in Baghdad.

OOC: In the game, it is now the 23rd century, so isn't petrol much less important than it is in real life? After all, fusion and other alternative-energy sources are widely available in the game.

[Giovanni Wine]

Diplomacy

To GFDR: According to the last Italian Intelligence report, Persia does not hold any Nuclear weapons, or any other mass-destruction weapons.
Italy also thinks that strike against Persia is in need, since the Persian government is an authoritarian despotic regime, where the Persian Sultan had proclaimed himslef as the god-like ruler of the WORLD.
In addiction, the Persian gov't had aften treated her own people as slaves, and assasinated whoever tried to oppose such a regime.
Italy thinks that any democracy should not tolerate such a despotic country to exist.

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Military
Half of the Italian garrison guarding the border with Russia had been moved to the military bases in Bulgaria.

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Italian Stats and Projects
Denuclearization of military: Stopped
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 5 years
Army to Large: 2 years
Navy to Medium: 1 years
Airforce to Medium: 2 years

Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 256 milion (138 Europe, 88 Venus, 10 Phobos, 10 As Pioneer in Uranum, 10 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion

Military:
Army: Medium (Large: 2 turns)
Navy: Small (Medium: 1 turns)
Airforce: Small (Medium: 2 turns)
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none

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NOVA TORINO (VENUS) - SECRET MEETING
The leaders of Australia, NUSSR and Italy start their meeting in the Conference room of the Royal Palace in Nova Torino, The Capital of the Venusian italian provinces.

General Philippo Loculopoulis, The Defense Minister, had very strong feelings about this meeting, since beeing of Greek origins he really cares about the future of his old fatherland.

About the Persian Conflict
"this is the plan that Italy propose" started the general "We will need perfect coordination of all our forces, in order to not allow the Persian any chance of defend herself" NUSSR forces will drop down from the north east, sweeping deep into Persian territories, they'll take Samarcanda, Kabul and other North eastern cities, they'll use their air-superiority to weaken the Persian defence in the area, and then just let the army finish the job. Australian and Italian navies will start bombing the most important ports in the mediterraneum and the Arabian peninsula, Italian forces will start invading from Turkey and Israel (we figured that we should have people's support in Israel) this will allow Australia to land an invasion force in Yemen and Oman, and to quickly conquer their way up.
Since the Persian forces will be to spread out to efficiently fight three different armies, in three different fronts (in air, land and sea) we should be able to quickly overrun the country.
When all attacks will be done, we'll squeeze the rest of Persian defense in Baghdad"

Here is a map plan: (I spent a lot of effort in drawing it )

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by Jonny
To Italy, Australia, NUSSR, ULS:

I strongly urge you not to pursue war with the Persians. They have done nothing harmful to the world, and your claims about their government are unjustified. In fact, by declaring war on Persia, you are making problems worse, as they will probably use weapons of mass destruction in defense. Persia does not need a 'regime change', you are simply making things up in order to take their land, and we do not approve of that.

GDFR diplomats remain in Baghdad.

OOC: In the game, it is now the 23rd century, so isn't petrol much less important than it is in real life? After all, fusion and other alternative-energy sources are widely available in the game.

1. I will only go to war against Persia to prove to the NUSSR that i have no evil intentions towards her and am willing to work alongside her.

2. We don't want their land and want the Persian people to keep it.

3. It would be best to remove diplomats in an area that at least 2 nations plan to invade.

4. All ULS craft use either liquid oxygen or fusion. We don't need any petrol.

5. At the last minute we decided not to give the former Russian colonies to the emigres and instead set them up on a space Station, Haven , built for this purpous in the Centauri system.

[SKILORD]

If the NUSSR accept my offer for help you'll have to add in ULS strafing runs to your calculations Giovanni.

[Giovanni Wine]

Italy welcomes ULS involvment in the Persian conflict
but Italy can not agree to this term:

2. We don't want their land and want the Persian people to keep it.

As we think it is better to keep a closer eye in Persia, and to help the people living there to start a new way of living, that they never experienced before, FREEDOM.
The only way to grant this, is to keep a foot on those lands. So that a new despot will never rise again between them, and in order to start up some infrastructures there.

If the ULS is willing to join this project we will rework our military plan

Saluti

OOC: Petrol is not very useful in Italy, not as a fuel, (we use fusion power engines, or liquid Hydrogen), but it is still used as an alternative source of power (since Italy is against Nuclear plants).

[Cinna]

Originally posted by Jonny
To Italy, Australia, NUSSR, ULS:

I strongly urge you not to pursue war with the Persians. They have done nothing harmful to the world, and your claims about their government are unjustified. In fact, by declaring war on Persia, you are making problems worse, as they will probably use weapons of mass destruction in defense. Persia does not need a 'regime change', you are simply making things up in order to take their land, and we do not approve of that.

GDFR diplomats remain in Baghdad.

OOC: In the game, it is now the 23rd century, so isn't petrol much less important than it is in real life? After all, fusion and other alternative-energy sources are widely available in the game.

Australia supports human rights for all people everywhere. We feel it is our duty to 'liberate' people from a dictator who severely limits rights of minorities and women. Instead of annexing any of Australia we will give it back to the people, while still keeping a sphere with economic influence.


Australia mobilizes for an invasion, careful not to create a formal declaration of war.

[mmtt]

To Italian Empire and Australia during the conference:
NUSSR agrees to this plan (nice map btw). To further aid our allies, we will give you some of our landing crafts to help you in your operations around Israel.
We will also send a division of elite forces around Istanbul to cut off supply for Persian army in Greece.

On our side, we will not launch a big offensive in Caucasus by land. Mountains would be a great difficulty to overcome. Instead we will use helicopters and our navy to land behind the mountains. Another army will like you said size Samarqand and Kabul and quickly afterwards move in to take Baghdad.

If you agree to this, our troops will immediately attack on your signal.
Petrol is needed for NUSSR, wars and destruction has required the need of every possible resource in NUSSR, including petrol.



To ULS, and read by Australia and Italia:
We shall accept this proposal but with two conditions.
-NUSSR and her allies will have their hands free in Persia.
-We shall be able to judge and possibly to arrest former Russia politics. At least, they shouldn't be free of their movements and be under close-surveillance.



NUSSR projects:
Five year Plan: 3 years
Genecom Research: 3 years
Readiness for war: done

Research for new rifles and infantry weaponry has been started: 2 years

[Jonny]

To ULS, Italy, Australia, NUSSR:

OK, if you truly believe that Persia needs a new government, fine.

I just ask you one thing: that you do not take their land for good, just install a good, democratic government. After the war, you can keep peacekeeping forces there, just don't take their land!

[Giovanni Wine]

Persian Conflict Plan
Ok... if the ULS will join us in this war, than I think that the main forces of the ULS should help the Australian in the landing invasion... as that might be the more difficult one.

About the Caucasus problem, I think that NUSSR can easily avoid the problem by landing a few troops from the Caspian Sea, or by parashooting them.

Or maybe, the Italian forces may take on that city, as we think that there shoiuld not be too much obstacles in our front.

Italian ships were alredy supposed to cut off Greece from the Persian supplies (see map), but if the Russian wish to help... it is no problem for us.

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Military
Navy size increased from Small to Medium, Army and Airforce will be due 1 year.

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Italian Stats and Projects
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 4 years
Army to Large: 1 year
Navy to Medium: done
Airforce to Medium: 1 year

Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 256 milion (136 Europe, 86 Venus, 10 Phobos, 12 As Pioneer in Uranum, 12 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion

Military:
Army: Medium (Large: 1 turn)
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Small (Medium: 1 turn)
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none

[SKILORD]

To ULS, and read by Australia and Italia:
We shall accept this proposal but with two conditions.
-NUSSR and her allies will have their hands free in Persia.
-We shall be able to judge and possibly to arrest former Russia politics. At least, they shouldn't be free of their movements and be under close-surveillance.

As for the first i agree, i will not take their land and my forces will but support as the current allied forces are adequate to defeat their army.

The second though... i must remind you that the station Haven is a sovreign state and not under my juridstiction.

[SKILORD]

Icy Grip 1 Day

Army training upgraded
Merchantile fleet upgraded.

[mmtt]

To ILE:
Well even if station Haven isn't under your jurisdiction you set them up their and though Haven basically belongs to you. A small part of your own space fleet should guard this station and no politics should be able to leave it.

[Giovanni Wine]

Diplomacy
To Australia, NUSSR, ULS/ILE: Italy is ready for the attack on Persia.
We are waiting for your "ok"

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Military:
The army and irforce upgrades are done.
Italian forces are now, mainly located in South-east Europe.

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Italian Stats and Projects
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 3 years
Army to Large: done
Airforce to Medium: done

Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 258 milion (135 Europe, 85 Venus, 10 Phobos, 14 As Pioneer in Uranum, 14 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion

Military:
Army: Large
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Medium
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none

[mmtt]

To coalition powers, ILE, Italian Empire and Australia (top secret):
NUSSR forces are ready for action, all our army is on full alertness and ready to move in. Our marine’s forces are being loaded in landing crafts and artillery is positioned and ready to shoot. Our elite armored columns are being given new rifles and anti-tanks weaponry and flame thrower for bunker assaults.

Red Army chief of staff, Marshal Ivanof Gorkhvikin, will lead Red Army offensive and General Chuikov and Kovonov will command Caucasus and Iranian fronts respectively. At the end of the first day, Persian Army should have been crushed and our main forces should liberate Samarqand and reach frontier with Iraq. We should be in Baghdad in two weeks after the start of the invasion. But the enemy shouldn’t be able to reform their army. That’s why Marshal Gorkhvikin has stated that all the invasion NUSSR forces will encircle the maximum enemy forces in pocket.

Our Special Forces are already in action and will soon blow up bridge, communication lines, railways and carburant depots.

To world community:
Chairman Vladimir Illiouchine thanks his allies for their help and support and has addressed their last ultimatum to Persian authorities stating tha they have 12 hours (real time) to apply international requests.


To ALLIES (EXTREMELY SECRET AND TO LEADER EYES ONLY)
Red Army will invade in 6 hours (real time). We won’t change our minds.

Its 03:30 pm here. At 09:25, bombardments will start, at 09:27 landing crafts will land, at 09:30 our main forces attack.
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OOC: its up to you now...