Who Has the Game Save?

[FrustratedPoet]

Unorthodox: Isn't it the case that you can load a PBEM game up as if it were a normal SP game and bypass all the passwords and see the whole map?

Obviously for this to happen somebody who have to be 1) A cheater or 2) Very stupid. Hopefully we have none of the first group in this game, but I fear we have some of the second group.

Or have I have misunderstood something somewhere? I could easily be wrong because i don't have PTW, but this was the impression I got from other threads I've read.

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
How exactly are the passwords useless? Are you saying that I can load your sav without knowing the password?

Sorry if that is a stupid question, but computers and hacking are not my area of expertise.

Even if that is the case, what is to stop such an unscrupulous person/team from doing it anyway? We have A save, why couldn't they just continue playing out the other teams turns with it? I really don't understand the objection, can you clarify it for me a bit, please?

Well he stated before that he trusts the team leaders and no one else, that they would be honest enough not to hack into the game. But if we post savs on a thread in here were anyone can get to it they can hack into game. Passwords are only make it a little hard for them, but you can do it if you know what to do, and I would imagine that it is not so hard to find out etheir. Just because it has a password means it is safe. I too dont want them posted in open thread like that so anyone who wants and pick into the save game.

[UnOrthOdOx]

If that is so, how is NOT posting the sav really helping to stop an unscrupulous team from taking advantage of that fact, anyway? If this will speed up the game in any way, is it not worth the 'risk'? Let's say NYE can't play, instead of us waiting for him to get online and forward the sav to his backup, his backup could load it and pass it on much quicker this way...

Another question, how would making that a passworded thread solve anything? If each member of each team has the password to access the thread, what difference would it make if the thread was passworded?

If people are going to cheat, not posting the sav is not really going to stop them from cheating, that is what I am getting at. I can't really see any of the teams wanting to win so badly that they would cheat in such a manner.

Then, maybe I am just a trusting fool.

Again, how is limiting the sav, in any manner, really preventing cheating?

[Borc]

everybody can reveal the map very easy... its a simple trick... such simple that people said to me i better should stop to describe it here...

fact is that i will trust every team member of every team... but i dont want the saves to be downloadable for everybody else...

if i would want (and i dont have to be a hacker genious!) then i would need only 5 minutes to post a picture of your start position right here... :-/

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Jack_www

Well he stated before that he trusts the team leaders and no one else, that they would be honest enough not to hack into the game. But if we post savs on a thread in here were anyone can get to it they can hack into game. Passwords are only make it a little hard for them, but you can do it if you know what to do, and I would imagine that it is not so hard to find out etheir. Just because it has a password means it is safe. I too dont want them posted in open thread like that so anyone who wants and pick into the save game.

This problem would be completely solved if we could attach the saves to posts in our private forums. We really need to shout loudly at Mark and Dan to let us do that! We need to attach badly.

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
If that is so, how is NOT posting the sav really helping to stop an unscrupulous team from taking advantage of that fact, anyway? If people are going to cheat, not posting the sav is not really going to stop them from cheating, that is what I am getting at.

Actually I agree with you on this one, if people want to cheat they will - there is a million and one ways to do it whether we post the saves or not.

All we need to keep track of the save files is the ability to attach them in our private forums (if teams want to) and a tracking thread here for all the usual PBEM posts such as "Save sent to Legos" and "GS received the save, we'll play it soon and send it on".

[Borc]

FILE ON THE WAS

3950 save on the way to GhengisFarb now :-)

[Eli]

I'm here for Vox, if needed.

[FrustratedPoet]

I assume that NYE just sent you our new 3950 turn Borc?

In that case, good work on getting yours done quickly.

[BigFurryMonster]

Please post your team name when reporting a sent file.

BFM
Lux Invicta

[Eli]

Important note concerning Vox Controli -

At this very early stage we saw no point in having a constant player who plays the turns.
The little decisions were made in our forum, so when it's our turn to play just check which of our members are online and PM one of them(or use this forum) to get an email address.

[Arnelos]

I assume that GhengisFarb has the save file right now... but I have no idea whether he knows Togas' e-mail address (he certainly doesn't know mine) and whether to send it to him

[Donegeal]

GF is not on line right now (yes there is a first for everything), but I have Togas's e-mail address. I'll give it to him...

[Dis]

I'll be online a lot today/tommorrow. I can play Vox Controlli. You can e mail my profile address or Krusher3X@yahoo.com

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Arnelos
I assume that GhengisFarb has the save file right now... but I have no idea whether he knows Togas' e-mail address (he certainly doesn't know mine) and whether to send it to him

Nope, no one has sent me the game. Borc sent it during the first turn to both of my email addresses but I haven't received anything today.