The Glory of War

[korn469]

this sounds like a civ i'd be interested in joining, though i think we should pick a civ with the militaristic trait

[Donegeal]

Yes, I understand your concern, Ninot and Togas. And, frankly, your right. IF you run into us, your going to instantly reel. You'll say "oh ****! Change all "Q's" to Spearmen!". But that is if you approach this game with the unfair knowledge of what we emphasize. In the Multi-site game, none of us will know what "type" of civ we will be facing. Here, you know because its announced so we can gather together specific types of players.

Who would want to join a team that expresses:
We will always take the middle ground! We will whore science but not share. We will build peacefully and fight as true warriors!

If I did that, then I would have a bland grey team in all repects. The selection of what team you wanted to be on would boild down to a popularity contest.

This team will refuse to sit on the fence. One or the other, not both. This team will have warmonger tendancies so people know that if they tend to be more warlike, this is where they would like to play.

[Ninot]

the middle ground atleast leaves an element of surprise to neighbors, keeping them guessing about our intentions

with YOUR intentions... it will be a natural tendency to expect an attack, and thus, your attacks are more likely to fail

[UnOrthOdOx]

As I said, I like the idea of sticking to a single minded aproach even if it is doomed to fail as Ninot and others claim. It is a test, and those of us who are testers at heart know that one mus use extremes in such a test. As long as we have fun at it, I don't care if you all gang up and poind us into the earth. At lest then we can call you all cowards for fearing us so much you couldnt face us alone with you middle ground nonsense.

The very fact that we would be FORCING our neighbors out of their style to switch to our own style of warmongering may even provide something of an edge, who knows?

[korn469]

at best, better tactics will overcome prior knowledge of the general strategy, at worst this team will turn into a better directed AI

playing an agressive civ dedicated to glory and conquest still allows for some strategic and tactical wiggle room, i think if anything it restricts diplomatic options more than production strategies and it is far less handicapped than a team that refused to ever launch an offensive war or a team that choose to play the game as an OCC

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

It looks like we have a few definite teams in Trips, Trash Trip, and Glory of Trashing Trip (of War), as they have a good amount of sign-ups. How are the other teams doing on sign-ups?

[Ninot]

Togas looks to have a strong team, doesnt he?

[UnOrthOdOx]

Donegeal, one little thing we should consider.

While the C3DG NewCon is well written, and a very fine document, it is also based upon the masses that the C3DG has accumulated. We will need to come up with a different system, at least to start with, I believe, to take into account the lower numbers we have, and will continue to have even if more people join, we will not be approaching the 60 regular, active members that the NewCon was designed to accomidate.

[Donegeal]

Good point Unortho. The document that governs us is actually not very important to me. The stragety that we approach the game with is what I'm concerned with. I mentioned the NewCon only as an example. I was actually thinking about this last night and came up with an interesting Idea. One vote for each tile that we have under our control. We sell the tiles in our control via GF $Mini game and we would inesense turn into a warmongering civ run by land owners. The more land you own, the more power you have. Definately an example of survival of the fittest, which would be very approiate with a warmongering civ. Maybe we should be the Klingons!

[UnOrthOdOx]

Perhaps it would be interesting to expand this a bit, making regional administrators, or even setting up a system of feudal lords with a Monarch? Each one wanting to expand his own holdings...do it on the level of cities, not tiles, though. We have few enough people that there would be cities/regions for all (depending on the map settings, perhaps).

[Donegeal]

Hmmmm... I like this. And the City lord could make requests to the Monarch for military forces and PW. The CL could be incharge of everything about the city with the King making orders for workers/settlers/military units when nessecary. CL would be incharge of naming the region and City.

The King would play the game, control the sliders, deal with other civs and appoint Advisors.

The feudal system working off the $Mini-game buy purchasing new Founded/defeated cities from the King via a silent bid. One vote per city you own on national matters (like a GL or such)?

Hmmm... this is sounding more and more interesting all the time...

[UnOrthOdOx]

Only one caveat.

on the voting per city, and bidding on new cities, perhaps a rule pennalizing the winner of the last vote to even it for newer members? Something to even it out somewhat?

Should make for some interesting debates over wonders, palace, FP, cash rushing, and such.

[Donegeal]

That was what I was thinking. Hold cities for new members first, then allow for the purchase of a second city once everyone on the team has one already....

This gets us into the debate of a population cap. With a system like this, people like GF (or myself for that matter) will accumulate enormous sums of cash to purchase a new city but never get the oppertunity to do so because new people keep joining. Plus, if we keep the map small, like I want, even ten cities will constute a large empire.

*** Donegeal gets out his hammer and anvil to start working out a government for the Glory of War ***

[Donegeal]

Speaking of the Glory of War, what do you guy think of it as a name? I only put it out there to attract warmongers, its not official.

And Speaking of warmongers, are any of you actually warmongers? I sure hope so, cause I personally am a builder (but was exceedingly impressed with war in the DG). Perhaps Uber might be interested in joining once again (he didn't like how the government was set up in the DG)

Also, as it looks like picking our civ is going to win the poll, maybe we should start talking about that.

[Donegeal]

WoooHooo!

Just got a PM from Uber that he wants me to list him as a member!


He did say he would be a muted member, but anything from him will help!
Rock on Uber!