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  • #16
    As long as it is Rio style, who cares...
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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    • #17
      Actually, the puppeteering is now official. Togas was caught red-handed. See the S.P.I.N. thread.

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      • #18
        And a very good story at that.
        One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
        You're wierd. - Krill

        An UnOrthOdOx Hobby

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sir Ralph
          Actually, the puppeteering is now official.
          Sir Ralph publicly making it official is about as much as you can hope for.

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          • #20
            We couldn´t help...
            We Spaniards are all bug fans of pupets....
            Ain´t it true mr Watermelon?
            ´´Yes it is Nuclearis Winterius the III´´
            Besides, puppets are the only ones who spell our full Roleplay names!!!
            Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
            Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
            Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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            • #21
              Why are you so surprised at the fact that we gave the city to GS? The cities were clearly lost, so we decided to offer them to GS and Lego. Anything better than leting the invasors get them...

              And I am also surprised how our invasors, who attack them without any reason or honour, expect them to behave honorably in return. Spain has not given any reason that justifies this attack. The only reason that has been pointed is what ND considers "a fair distribution of the land". If you feel like "a fair distribution" is to own all the GS or all the Lego lands, will you attack them only for that reason and call them "arrogants" because they have "your" lands?

              You didn't behave honourly with us, so don't ask us to do the same. When this idea about giving the cities to Lego and GS was proposed it seemed a very good idea to me. Why would we just wait until the cities are taken by the enemy? Do you want us to surrender right now and give the control of all Spain to you? (It is a rethoric question, I know that the answer is "yes" ) Honestly I didn't believe you were fool enough to attack them, but I secretly wanted that you did
              "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
              "A communist is someone who has read Marx and Lenin. An anticommunist is someone who has understood Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)

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              • #22
                GoW's grievances against Roleplay are very numerous, quite possibly more than ND's. We have a Thread of Grudges you know, and this war should redeem many of the "Grudge Posts" in that thread.

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                • #23
                  Honestly I didn't believe you were fool enough to attack them, but I secretly wanted that you did

                  That was my point exactly. It was perfectly obvious that Spain wished to play a game of smoke and mirrors to place ND and GoW in a position where what appeared the most logical choice was to attack the new GS cities. A smart move, and I was not surprised at all.

                  Well, I was surprised that Santiago was not more heavily defended, frankly, but other than that, I figured Bilbao would be disbanded or sold.

                  However, as you have already acuurately described:

                  Anything is better than seeing those cities in the hands of your enemies.

                  Therefore, I thank you for ensuring that they LEFT the hands of our enemy. And without so much as a fight! I honestly hope you continue to cooperate so fully in the future, for the quicker you disband or sell your cities, the quicker we can be done with this.

                  Then again, this is but one man's opinion, not an official team one.
                  One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                  You're wierd. - Krill

                  An UnOrthOdOx Hobby

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                  • #24
                    /me wonders if GoW is ever going to capture a city in this war...


                    Anyway, some of uss were quick to call RP cowards not necessarily for the stunt they pulled but WHEN they pulled it. I would expect a nation in its death-throes to go the extreme, but on the first turn of battle, and especially a city which looked to be so well defended??? What was the point in building its walls and surely whatever number of defensive units were in place... giving up Santiago so easily might even cost you the war sooner than you think.
                    A true ally stabs you in the front.

                    Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                    • #25
                      *** Hot_Enamel wonders if GoW is ever going to kill anything in this entire game !! ***



                      The Glory of War
                      Actively involved in every war in the game
                      Lux war = 0 kills
                      Vox war = 0 kills
                      RP war = 0 kills so far
                      "No Comment"

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                      • #26
                        The war has only just started. I firmly believe you will end up actually killing units in this war. Unless RP are going to copy the Lux strategy letter by letter
                        Don't eat the yellow snow.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Master Zen
                          I would expect a nation in its death-throes to go the extreme, but on the first turn of battle
                          You see... that's just the point. Is it better that we held onto some foolish false hope of survival in the face of overwhelming odds or that we saw the writing on the wall for what it really was and acted logically in accordance with that realization?

                          Afterall, 11th hour desperate measures generally fail.
                          Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
                          Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
                          7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
                            *** Hot_Enamel wonders if GoW is ever going to kill anything in this entire game !! ***



                            The Glory of War
                            Actively involved in every war in the game
                            Lux war = 0 kills
                            Vox war = 0 kills
                            RP war = 0 kills so far

                            well, we did capture Trip

                            (that alone compensates for our not-so-glorious war record...)
                            A true ally stabs you in the front.

                            Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Arnelos


                              You see... that's just the point. Is it better that we held onto some foolish false hope of survival in the face of overwhelming odds or that we saw the writing on the wall for what it really was and acted logically in accordance with that realization?

                              Afterall, 11th hour desperate measures generally fail.
                              So RP is that weak...

                              We're still accepting surrenders
                              (although please let us at least kill someone so we can have a kill in our record )
                              A true ally stabs you in the front.

                              Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                              • #30
                                Actually, we did kill one Lux Warrior in the Lux War and capture one Lux Worker (Trip).

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