Is PTW worth me getting for SP only?

[player1]

Yes, it suprises me that still, almost week after 1.14f patch, "PtW sucks crowd" is still talking about unplayable MP.

[WarpStorm]

Well, since most of them haven't tried it they don't realize that it actually works now.

[Roggan]

if your not sure jeffds download it it, thats what i did. It saves you from being dissapointed if you dont like it.

Then if you do like it... keep it. It takes quite a while to download though but if you dont mind waiting its ok

i would give the game about 41% out of 100%

harvre a good day

[zulu9812]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
Well, since most of them haven't tried it they don't realize that it actually works now.

I'd love to try it - unfortunately I can't. So I'm in the 'Inforgrames suck' camp.

[Coracle]

PTW is already dropping in price - the sign of a sure product disaster and a scared company.

Amazon.com now has it for $25, five dollars already slashed!

Another twenty off and I might be interested.

As for MP "working", the reviews I've seen, such as at Gamespy.com, said it did not work at all before the patch causing numerous crashes, but now, after the patch, works extremely slowly, so slowly as to be useless.


Told ya Infogrames sucked.

[WarpStorm]

The simple answer is that I wouldn't go back to playing Civ3 without PTW if someone gave me $30 to delete it from the system and never reinstall it.

[vondrack]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
The simple answer is that I wouldn't go back to playing Civ3 without PTW if someone gave me $30 to delete it from the system and never reinstall it.

Exactly. Nicely put. The same for me (just that it cost me $40, due to the shipping costs - still well worth my money).

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by Coracle
PTW is already dropping in price - the sign of a sure product disaster and a scared company.

Amazon.com now has it for $25, five dollars already slashed!

There is already a thread about this, please find it instead of bothering us with this discussion again. They cut the price of most games a few weeks after release.

[PrinceBimz]

Guys, how come no one mentions the scenario editor? It was supposed to improve in PtW correct? Well how has it changed and has it improved?

[planetfall]

Only play SP

For me the significant changes in PTW that have not been mentioned are:


Positives
1. Manhattan now can be a small wonder. Thus you can be one of the civs having nukes while others are still researching. Much more realistic than everyone having nukes because one civ got it. This was the only GW where everyone got the tech when one civ researched it.

2. Bomber ranges are increased. Standard for stealth bombers is now 15 tiles

3. Easier to see active trades on diplomacy screen

4.More editor preference options.

Negatives
Your preferences from previous version is not importable into current PTW. Thus have to painfully go thru all your prefences one by one. This took me several hours and several games to get back to my standard preferences.

== PF

[siredgar]

Originally posted by Coracle
SIMPLE ANSWER:

MP stinks and is very slow. But you don't care.

SP is slightly better with PTW based on all the reviews I have seen. But I always considered Civ 3 inherently flawed and not very good, so it doesn't matter to me. But if you liked Civ 3 after the final patch, if you do not think Firaxis ripped you off in the first place (I do), and have thirty bucks you don't need. . . then buy it. It depends entirely on your situation.

One warning: I have read reviews that said SP is a little slower (?). Not sure about that.

I for one will wait until it is in the $9.95 bin or packaged with something else. If I ever get it.

Coracle = Imran Siddiqui ???

Basically, Imran Siddiqui was the idiot who kept on talking trash in the Korean civilization thread when he didn't know jack sh*t.

Don't you love it when people talk out of their arses about stuff they don't even know?

These are the guys who are wasting your eyeball use on the Internet.

[player1]

Re: Only play SP

Originally posted by planetfall
2. Bomber ranges are increased. Standard for stealth bombers is now 15 tiles

No, no
It's 12 for Stelath Bomber and 8 for Stelath Fighter.

Plus, you can change numbers manualy in editor even to 100 tiles or more.

[player1]

Re: Only play SP

dp

[Argos65987]

Originally posted by Coracle
PTW is already dropping in price - the sign of a sure product disaster and a scared company.

Amazon.com now has it for $25, five dollars already slashed!

Another twenty off and I might be interested.

As for MP "working", the reviews I've seen, such as at Gamespy.com, said it did not work at all before the patch causing numerous crashes, but now, after the patch, works extremely slowly, so slowly as to be useless.


Told ya Infogrames sucked.

I heard that the review was based on the program "out of the box" and not on the patched version (1.04 or 1.14). The patched version works well.

[FNBrown]

MP still bites. I can't play a complete game on my LAN without out of synch errors bogging me down (I shudder to think what Internet play might be like).

I can do a "hotseat" game without much trouble. Otherwise, you can forget the Multiplayer "feature."

As a standalone "upgrade" to Civ3 for the solo player, it's not bad, but might not be worth more than US $19.95. The new civs are nice, I like the advanced movement buttons (never could memorize all the hotkeys) and the new espionage screen is cool.

Still, I was hoping for an easier way to mod the game with new units (it's still not at all intuitive), and a much better AI diplomacy model (there's a thread with some great suggestions for this floating around now... Firaxis would do well to observe it).