Civ3:PTW Installation Sequence

[isak]

1.29f is not needed - It is installed automatically when you install PtW.

Also, when installing Patches, take care that it is actually Installing the patch, and not un-installing.

If for some reason the patch is already registered by Windows (Check the Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs Section), running the Patch EXE file again, will uninstall the patch.

[vmxa1]

Not sure what you mean by automatic. The exe for civ3 is not changed. PTW is in its own folder. This menas that if you want to fire up the std civ3 you will not have 129f unles you patched it. If you never use the std civ3 cd, then you are correct you do notneed the 129f.

[isak]

No, the exe is changed - after installing PtW it should be dated 28-June-02 - that's the 1.29f Civ3.exe date. If not, something went wrong in your installation.

[War4ever]

i am missing the following file it says, IFC23.DLL

anyone know what this is about?

[War4ever]

ok fixed that file thanx to a thread on a different page, now it says the disc isn' t in the tray.....gr.....stupid game

[isak]

@War4Ever

No, stupid you for thinking that Warez always work. Buy the game or at least have the decency to stop complaining.

[War4ever]

calling me stupid is silly, i am not insulting anyone here, i own every civ disc there is other than ptw, which from the sounds of things is quite buggy stilll....

i just want to see what all the hype is about, and your right i should buy it, but i won't until i try it, and if i have to wait a few more days/weeks till a proper pirate comes out so be it....

you seem to take great pride i cutting people down who use pirates.....

lets count the civ titles , i have on disc,

civ1
civ2 fantastic worlds,
civ2 tot
civ2
civ2 mge
civ2 cic which i can't remember if it is on the scenarios disk or not..i htink its green

anyways, i have purchased many civ products, but b/c i found civ3 to be somewhat of a bummer compared to #1 and #2 , i am leery. Not too mention, whats the deal with milking all the civers for a mp version of civ3....

i thought the days of not including MP in a game were over, you know, back in 98 when microprose screwed us the first time..

i guess its infogames and firaxis's turn this time.....

but , that bs all aside, a no cd crack will come out, and i will grab a hold of it, so no big deal really, either that or someone will rip the game soon enough.

And unlike you , i won't go around saying people are stupid for buying a game that may turn out to be a piece of sh!t

What we really need is some sort of store that lets you rent out pc games , then we wouldn't have such moral issues to deal with ..

take care of yourself, and remember, you only live once, so live on the edge a little, the man upstairs won't frown to hard on you, when he takes into account that the cost is jacked up just high enough so the consumer will still pay for his fix!!

[isak]

Originally posted by War4ever
you seem to take great pride i cutting people down who use pirates.....

There's no pride involved, trust me. I don't give a toss if you want to break the law.
After hanging out in the MP lobby for too long, I'm just sick of people whining over a game they haven't even got a full working version of. I'm sick of people complaining about bugs that are only in the Warez version. A multiplayer game that involves just one person with a bad copy of the game will crash. Is that Firaxis' fault?
If everybody playing Multiplayer had the legal version of the game, it wouldn't be perfect, but it certainly would improve the situation a lot.

Not too mention, whats the deal with milking all the civers for a mp version of civ3....

You sing the same songs as everyone else using warez - I heard them all before, and I'm still not impressed. Developing games costs money - if you think Infogrames are bad at calculating the costs of this developement, I suggest you contact their accounting dept.

And unlike you , i won't go around saying people are stupid for buying a game that may turn out to be a piece of sh!t

Where did I say this?

take care of yourself, and remember, you only live once, so live on the edge a little, the man upstairs won't frown to hard on you, when he takes into account that the cost is jacked up just high enough so the consumer will still pay for his fix!!

I don't really think I would get a kick out of downloading warez.

[Minuteman]

Originally posted by isak
1.29f is not needed - It is installed automatically when you install PtW.

Also, when installing Patches, take care that it is actually Installing the patch, and not un-installing.

If for some reason the patch is already registered by Windows (Check the Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs Section), running the Patch EXE file again, will uninstall the patch.

Crap! I should have visited this thread before I installed the game. It seems to be working fine though, but I know how "sensitive" this game can be if things aren't done just so.

[War4ever]

@isak......

well this isn't the only thread you have replied to regarding "software" issues....

why should i pay for a game that SHOULD have come with MP istalled in it??


no you called me stupid for believing in warez, but i didn't call you stupid for buying a buggy piece of crap software,

why should the consumer be the guinea pig for a company that only released the game so early so it could milk sales for christmas

your right, you probably won't get a kick out of it

oh and by the way, i know it costs alot of money, but if your going to release a game, release it properly....don't defend the actions of many gaming companies who really dont give a sh!t about anything other than making a buck...when this trend ends, and good games are released without all the bs, then maybe warez will die down, until then, i will continue to tow the line with warez and buy only those games of value for my $$

i am no millionaire, there are a ton of games out there, and i cant affoard many of them...and gaming magazines are not to be trusted....most of them can't give an honest review anyways.....

[isak]

@War4Ever

My final OT rant on this:

Are you trying to convince me? Or yourself...

Your rant about all the nasty software companies and all the nice little wAreZeRs, is utter BS! Games have been hacked, cracked and smacked for as long as they have existed. And just as long I've heard wAreZerS whinny the same old song about how they're the Robin Hoods of game developement, and the only thing that can make the big bad Sheriffs Of Nothinggames see the light and finally release games for free.

Well, 20 years later, here we are, and most people seem to think that the gaming industry in terms of marketing and customer service, has been sliding downhill, so I'd really like some of the aforementioned WarEzeRS to comment on exactly how and when their brilliant strategy is finally going to work - a lot of people, yourself included, still seem to be waiting for some results...

If you don't like the way a game is marketed, don't buy it. If you didn't know that Civ3 was without MP when you bought it, you should have done something smart and read about it first. If you knew that it wasn't with MP, but still bought it, you've accepted the fact that it wasn't, and any whining over that fact is really just... whining!

It's not your god given right to sample every game released - it would be nice, but it just isn't happening.

[Minuteman]

isak


That was a cogent rant, Isak. However, I think you're pi$$ing against the wind insofar as convincing "Warez4ever" of the correctness and logic of your argument. Grostesque rationalizations aside, this clown is assuredly not on some sanctified crusade to right the perceived wrongs of the software industry. It sounds like he's only out for free ****e, nothing more.

[War4ever]

Granted pirates who don't pay for their software are hurting consumers and designers...... but the gaming industry needs to allow players to try games in the same way the music industry allows us to listen to music free of charge....especially when games in gerneral cost 2-3 times

[Minuteman]

Originally posted by War4ever
Granted pirates who don't pay for their software are hurting consumers and designers...... but the gaming industry needs to allow players to try games in the same way the music industry allows us to listen to music free of charge....especially when games in gerneral cost 2-3 times

The software industry does have a means for allowing prospective customers to sample their products before purchasing them. They're called "Demos". Ring a bell?

[War4ever]

without a doubt , your correct, not all demos turn into a fine tuned product, as many change when the game is officially released.

and your right, i am looking for a free way to test the game, however its not a huge deal to me, i play civ2 mp all the time still....

apparently i have ruffled feathers, so sorry for that...

one more thing, i am not trying to rip anyone off, i just want to make sure my 30-70 dollars is going to a company who deserves it...thats all...

like you say you never pirate, and always buy, i always get rid of software i don't think is worth my time, so i don't keep pirate crap..... if i like the game, i always purchase it...

and please , i don't want to hear your lamer response, "thats what all pirates say"

and remember for all you pro buyers out there.....i have heard your claims too...it doesnt' justify the gaming industry releasing bogus buggy, and bad games..all to make $$ off consumers who then feel cheated...