What will your favorite MP victory condition be?

[alva]

take a regular transport , put the king in there, cover it with veteran transports and other ships. Mighty hard to destroy it IMO.

There is an other advantage to this, You can't see if he is actually in there.

[CiverDan]

If you can't put a king on a boat, that would sick if you started on a small island. So I hope that isnt a rule.

[Dominae]

Originally posted by CiverDan
If you can't put a king on a boat, that would sick if you started on a small island. So I hope that isnt a rule.

The disadvantages of starting on a small island are the same if you have to defend a King or not. In any case, if you can ship the King off to the polar icecaps, then the whole Regicide concept wasn't well designed, IMO.


Dominae

[Buster13]

I have to agree I'm looking forward to mass regicide most of all, but I'm also looking forward to the concept of victory point locations. I think it'll lead to some well designed maps by the 'polytoners. It'll probably suck on a random map.

I'm a chess player to, but also an amature military strategist...but then aren't we all....

[aahz_capone]

The difference between an amature military startegist and a professional is that an amature just hasn't had the chance to prove his theories in live combat.

THANK GOD!

[PriestOfDiscord]

Putting all the kings in one city would be a poor idea for one reason at least: Nuclear weapons.

[ZargonX]

I like Mass Regicide just for the idea of watching little kings comically running through the woods trying to escape the coming onslaught...

of course, that isn't so funny if it's your king...

[Zero]

Originally posted by CiverDan
I wouldnt put my lone king on an island until I know the vikings arent playing (it would suck to lose the game because of a couple of berserks), and I know that these games arent going into the "marine" era, otherwise you will be defending a location possibly far away from any of your cities. Putting the king on the boat may be risky too, you run into another boat on your way there, u have a 50/50 chance of losing the game right there. People start w/kinsg on boats their be people just going for map making and building boats just to take a potshot and another vessel that may have a king in it. I'd risk a war with anyone for that chance.

suggestions were for mass regicide, so there is no risk actually... ur actually making enemy attack plan more comlpicated. You dont lose until all ur kings are dead anyway so why not complicate matter by having ur enemy to search ur king using both naval and land units? besides even if it was a regicide game (with one king) it might be actually better to place king on a ship instead of a city since cities are a potential big targets. Maps usually have wide open ocean areas, so king on a ship could be tougher to kill then obvious king in a city with mucho defense.. Heck if you want u can stack a naval armada for ur king and it might be better than having a king and army stack guarded in city which is vulnerable to many other tricks that are available to them!

If wat ur stating is true and enemy will crank out naval units arent u successfully diverting them from their full land unit production? Sounds good to me I think that might be worth the risk, if there are any.

Going back to mass regicide, I suggest at least having two kings nursed in a city with super defense. One in the heart of empire (saftey) and one at the border. Placing king on border might sound stupid, but that allows you to expect where enemy is going to attack if he doesn't know your true intention of putting a king there. If he's simple-minded he may just hammer away that same spot with assault after assault. That would make his attack plan predictable. Third king should be fortified with alot of unit in non city square (possibly far away from empire in unoccupied land if u have the luxury) This king will be immune to "investigate city" trick. Also king on a ship and sending it far off ocean and at 1 square island can complicate matter. even without defense king on 1 square island still require enemy to divert attention to actually build marine forces and search for king even if he knows.

How many kings do u get in mass reg anyway?

[alva]

IIRC you get 3 kings

just put them all in different ships and away they go......................

[Random Passerby]

I forget... I know you can have multiple kings (hence Regicide vs. Mass Regicide), but can you set up Elimination to require more than 1 city loss ("Mass Elimination")? I'm not so big on the all-or-nothing aspect of Elimination, but it would be damn cool if there was an option to trigger a loss after you lose X number of cities (say, 3-4 for a standard map, maybe).

[WarpStorm]

Originally posted by Random Passerby
but can you set up Elimination to require more than 1 city loss ("Mass Elimination")?

Not that I've heard of, but it's not a bad idea. The all or nothing aspect of Elimination will slow down growth in a major way. You won't spawn a settler till you've got enough defenders to protect the flegling city.

[CiverDan]

I have a couple of questions regarding nukes here. Most people assume, rightly so IMHO, that most games will be over before the nuke era. But what if a game does make it this far. Does it become nothing more than a race to see who can nuke their opponents king/city first?

[Zero]

Well if your the biggest bad boy in the game you probably have the most territory owned, so global warming is not gonna help you. If you're the smallest, starting a nuclear warfare wouldnt be so bad except there would be a greater chance that the bigger boys will have more nukes than you and even if you deal first strike they probably can retaliate with far greater amount of numbers.

If plaayers are neck to neck, the tension for nuclear war would probably be great. The first person who invents it will probably use it on half a dozen of cities, establish dominance and follow the example above.

[Zero]

Originally posted by alva848
IIRC you get 3 kings

just put them all in different ships and away they go......................

only three? oh well. I say one for ship opne for capitol and one for border cities.