Where I can find information of PTW please ?

[Smith_X]

I try to read from civ3.com but I have many question about civ3. anybody please help me..

1. what's a simutaneous game ? is civ3 a turn base game isn't it ?

Turn Base Game --> UFO Enemy Defense, Heroes of Might and Magic, Master of Magic
Real Time Game --> Warcraft 3, Red Alert 2

I never heard about simultaneous game style before in my life.

2. what's a email game ? how does it work ? like I send email to you and waiting for you reply to me ? I start to play 1 turn and I send my savegame to you and you play your turn then you reply to me do it again and again like this ???

3. "new map features like outposts, airfields and radar towers" ==> I'm really do not understand what's it ? is it a building that I can build in town ? I guess not because that's called city improvement. so what's a map feature ? only "MAP" that I can load and play ? or just start with scernario and play ?

4. "Easier-to-use interface for streamlined management and better control" --> what's a streamlined management ?? I only heard about micro management but do not understand what streamlined management is. ? please help me..

thanks in advance

[Tiberius]

You can find a lot of info reading the Civ3 PTW previews on several gamesites, like gamespot.com, ign.com, gamespy.com, avault.com, etc.

A quick link:
gamespot preview

You can find also a lot of info reading the news and/or searching the forums on apolyton (well, here ) or on civfanatics.com.

[Tiberius]

1. I have no idea. Well, I have an idea, but a very vague one, so I am not able to give explanations to others

2. yes

3. these are tile improvements that a worker can build, just like mines or irrigations. Outposts increase visibility while radar towers give defence and (I think) attack bonus to nearby units.

4. I have no idea what does this mean, and I have really big doubts that anyone could tell more (except maybe Firaxis, but they don't want to).

[Spiffor]

1. The simultaneous mode is a mode where everybody plays his turn at the same time. It's different from real time because it's still turn based, i.e your warriors cannot move more than 1 tile until the turn is over. It's a very original mode, I think only MAX had it before.
The "turnless" mode goes further than simultaneous : the computer automatically ends the turn after a pretty short time (which gets longer when people have more cities and units, to avoid the game becoming a clickfest).

2. Yes. There have been some big PBEM games on Apolyton for Civ2, which lasted very long (several months). Do this only if you're not in a hurry

3. Tiberius said it perfectly.

4. I think "streamlined management" means something like "fast management" : in turnless mode, you won't have much time, and you'll have to rely on automation. I know PTW will display many more order buttons when you select a worker (currently, the only automation order which gets a button is "automate" ; in PTW, every automation order will have its button displayed).
Other untis will have some more buttons which have to do with automation, like "patrol".

[Bolt]

Loved M.A.X. and simultanious move (hated M.A.X.2 though). Speed up the games considrebly, but hopefully the AI will not always be very fast and be able to move all unites before I have a chanse to move (like always attack first if he have a better unit and both have 1 movement).

The email game is much automatic, no need to send every mail by yourself, I think civ3 handles most of the things automaticly.

[Tiberius]

double post. deleted.

[Tiberius]

I doubt that simultaneous move will be for single player, as well. I think only for MP, but who knows?

The email game is much automatic, no need to send every mail by yourself, I think civ3 handles most of the things automaticly.

AFAIR somebody from Firaxis has said that PBEM will be very simple and we will need to load a saved game, then send it by ourselves, then save, wait, load, ... . Hopefully I am wrong, but sadly I don't think so.

[Bolt]

Ah no simultaneus game in SP, so sad

Would have speed up the games considerbly. Thus the conclusion, no AI playes in MP, also sad.

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by Bolt
Ah no simultaneus game in SP, so sad

Would have speed up the games considerbly. Thus the conclusion, no AI playes in MP, also sad.

I'm not sure, just guessing (about simultaneous games) . Maybe (hopefuly) I'm wrong.

[Smith_X]

-Original Post by Spiffor-
1. The simultaneous mode is a mode where everybody plays his turn at the same time. It's different from real time because it's still turn based, i.e your warriors cannot move more than 1 tile until the turn is over. It's a very original mode, I think only MAX had it before.
The "turnless" mode goes further than simultaneous : the computer automatically ends the turn after a pretty short time (which gets longer when people have more cities and units, to avoid the game becoming a clickfest).

I have question again..
if my warrior try to attack your warrior that still do not move what's happen ? maybe this system should like a real time game but still have turn base function? if you see my warrior try to attack your warrior next turn you should move your warrior first ? something like this ?

[Bolt]

I think the fastest one that moved/attacked with a unit first on a turn will move it. In that way, crittical situations you need to move first, leaving other things for later on the turn.

[WarpStorm]

The screenshots show computer players in MP games, but the Firaxians have said not in turnless.

[Hagbart]

Originally posted by Bolt
I think the fastest one that moved/attacked with a unit first on a turn will move it. In that way, crittical situations you need to move first, leaving other things for later on the turn.

you will move in turns, not by who is the fastest mover..

[Bolt]

I know its turns, but in simultaneous play the one with fastest movement with the mouse will move the unit first that turn, thats what I meant.

[Smith_X]

about email game..

if I (Smith_X) play with you.

I start game with 2 civilizations I choose country and you pick a country.

then I play my turn. when I finish I save game and game will send save game to your email address?

but if you are busy or hanging some place or can't check mail. I will not dry off because waiting for you ? (maybe I have not to wait.. but when I recieve your email then I play it right?)

this is very different from playing warcraft 3 online that I can play and the game will be finish with in 20 - 60 minute.

is email game type fun?