More Civs for Civ3!

[Firebird]

I think we desperately needs some south/middleamarican civs and another african civ or two. And the two proposed civs from the australian corner of the world would be a nice balance too.

[Carver]

Originally posted by Mannamagnus
The Netherlands

with a new Great Wonder, the Red Light District. 50% of your pop is always happy .

[Tiberius]

Parsifal, Kalgacus:

First of all, I agree, "this is only a small poll on the topic of a computer game, so let's not take it too seriously."

Next, I really hate to repeat myself so many times, but it seems that you people still don't get it:
1. I've never said that Scotland was not important.
2. I didn't try to prove that Hungary was more important then Scotland.
3. I've never asked to replace Scotland with Hungary.

I wanted only, and only, to prove that Hungary deserves to be on a list, in a poll, so the civers could vote it. I've said this many times

I don't want to repeat all the arguments why Hungary should be there. They are all there in my previous posts; read them from this point of view. I accept that you are biased toward the scots, but that doesn't mean that you can treat with disrespect other nations.

Anyway I voted "Another" so from my point of view this discussion is over (with a bad taste in my mouth).

[TheStinger]

Having Scotland as a seperate civ would be like including Texas or Prussia, infact Prussia would have a greater claim(than Scotland), a better example would be Saxony

[Kalgacus]

Would it really TheStinger, may I ask why?

[Traelin]

I would have really enjoyed seeing a few other Civs in PtW... Here's the list -- in order of significance to me -- of Civs I'd like to see in a future XP.

1. Hebrews -- for so many reasons. They've been around forever, they'd make for great scenarios with rival Civs (e.g., Arabs), and they've greatly impacted cultures of other countries around the world.

2. Netherlands. They played a major role in my favorite time in history, the colonial era. I mean c'mon, at one point they were a decent mercantile/exploratory power! Henry Hudson and the like were important figures in New World history.

3. Incas. Even though they get a lot of crap for not having stood the test of time like other ancient cultures, they still made contributions to S. American history and culture. Machu Picchu IS a pretty cool name for a city. Plus, we need another American Civ.

[Traelin]

Originally posted by Parsifal
Robert Dinwiddie (1693 - 1770)

Born near Glasgow, was the Lieutenant-Governor of Virginia. He insisted that the colonies should raise money for their own protection. Discovered George Washington's talents and sent him to resist the French. Thus he was an important figure in American History and has been called the "Grandfather of the United States".

Well I guess you learn something new every day. I live right outside of Washington, D.C. and have always wondered where the name of a street in Arlington -- Dinwiddie Road -- came from!

[Jethro83]

It hardly matters to me who Firaxis add in any XPs after PTW. If I want a civ in the game, I'll just add it in with Civ3Edit (sure getting a leaderhead together is difficult, but I hardly care anyway). I've already added the Incas, Hebrews and Australians to my game, and I'm looking for even more civs to add (just as soon as I can figure out some leaders, great leaders, city names and UUs for them).

Though it would be good of Firaxis to lighten the load here (and maybe add extra culture groups for this), I'm not prepared to depend on the possibility of Firaxis adding many extra civs to the game after PTW.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Kalgacus
Would it really TheStinger, may I ask why?

Because all scotland did as an independant nation was fight the english. Once england and scotland were joined Britain went on to gain an empire.

[Kalgacus]

Originally posted by TheStinger


Because all scotland did as an independant nation was fight the english. Once england and scotland were joined Britain went on to gain an empire.

When did Texas fight the English? Didn't they fight the Mexicans as well? If I recall correctly the Scots also fought Norway (defeat them at Largs), the Welsh and Spain, so that's not true.

[TheStinger]

No all I meant was that Texas was an independant nation but did bugger all to justify its inclusion as a civ, which is why no one has mentioned it.

[Kampus majore]

Originally posted by Carver
with a new Great Wonder, the Red Light District. 50% of your pop is always happy .

May be that would be better as a Small Wonder, so every civ can build one. As all real countries have them nowadays, but only Holland let them pay tax!

A Great Wonder could be The East Indian Company, The Deltaworks or The Windmill project.

[Kalgacus]

Originally posted by TheStinger
No all I meant was that Texas was an independant nation but did bugger all to justify its inclusion as a civ, which is why no one has mentioned it.

...that wasn't clear.

[dojoboy]

I voted for Portugal because of their role in leading European exploration prior to being overtaken by Spain & England. They were the firat real unified nation of Europe during this time w/ sailing schools and "cutting" edge developments in ship designs.

[Heresson]

Scotland may have some inventors, but so did Poland. Scottland was never a real empire - while Poland, since XIV
to XVIII century was one of the biggest (biggest for some time), strongest and most liberal states in Europe. We were stopping Russian, turkish and Austrian progress in eastern Europe for several centuries. If not Polish intervention, turks would have taken Wien twice, enough to say.
Hungary was a major power - only in Middle Ages though. Poland remained an important power until XVIII century. Hiding Poland behind Serbia is silly, and putting Scottland and Finland (which got independant only after Iww) is plain dumb. Serbia was a major power, but also only in regional scale, only under Stefan Duszan, in teh first part of XIV century. Also, its culture doesn't differ much from Russian,
while Poland represents another half of Slavic population, which is not orthodox.