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  • Poll: Bring back Partisans and Guerilla Warfare?

    I say yes.
    50
    Yes! Yes! Yes! Excellent idea!
    80.00%
    40
    Oh God NO! That idea is horrible!
    20.00%
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    If you are unable to read this you are illiterate.

  • #2
    I never really played CivII - how is it supposed to work?
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    • #3
      when you captured a city, enemy units (partisans) would pop-up around your territory. Effectively making sure there was at least some form of counter-attack. Don't really why they removed this.


      well this is al done IIRC , quite awhile since i played civ2. so please correct me if i'm wrong, witch i could well be

      EDITED: incorrect INFO
      Last edited by alva; July 1, 2002, 16:04.
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      • #4
        guerrila units had a weaker attack/defense than riflemen or whatever, but were all as roads.

        they were mainly used for pillaging and or making it harder to advance.

        they usually appeared on squarwes with defensive vales (mtns, hills, forests, fortresses whatever).

        they were just an annoyance, and i think they should be brought back.

        when you capture a large city, 1 or 2 pop points drop off and you get 5 or 6 partians in it's city radius.
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        • #5
          btw: isn't the guerilla making a come-back in PTW?
          in some kind of form anyway?
          cheap, no resources, low adm values
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          • #6
            Originally posted by UberKruX
            guerrila units had a weaker attack/defense than riflemen or whatever, but were all as roads.

            they were mainly used for pillaging and or making it harder to advance.

            they usually appeared on squarwes with defensive vales (mtns, hills, forests, fortresses whatever).

            they were just an annoyance, and i think they should be brought back.

            when you capture a large city, 1 or 2 pop points drop off and you get 5 or 6 partians in it's city radius.
            hi ,

            there should be an option to turn this ON or OFF , ...

            have a nice day
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            • #7
              there should be an option to have less options IMHO
              Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
              Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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              • #8
                Theyjust appeared after you discovered Geurilla warfare. In a way they are represented by resisting citezens.

                However, It would be nice to see them back.
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                • #9
                  Too powerful - 5/6 units? Even rush-building that would take 5/6 turns to builld minimum (that's like 120 years!) but a captured city suddenly generates free units for it's previous owners? No way. Bad, bad idea
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                  • #10
                    I voted yes, but I would like to add the following Caveats:

                    1) Partisans spawned by initial city capture should appear in the city radius, but NOT adjacent to the city. This makes them too easy to destroy (as I have often done after taking a city!!!).

                    2) Partisans and Guerillas should be sperate units, with partisans having high defense, but low attack, all as roads and geurillas having a higher attack, but low defense, all as roads. Both units should be colourless!

                    3) Though geurillas should be buildable at any time once you have the requisite tech, Partisans should not be!! They should only be available in the following ways: a) A new partisan unit is spawned every X-turns within the captured city's radius, as long as there are resistors in that city and/or b) should only be available in a city build queue after you have lost a city to an enemy!

                    4) Not so sure about this last one, but I reckon that guerillas and partisans should possess a light bombarding ability (non-lethal), in order to reflect their ability to harass an enemy!

                    Combined, I think all of these factors would definitely make the partisan worth bringing back!

                    Yours,
                    The_Aussie_Lurker.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by alva848
                      btw: isn't the guerilla making a come-back in PTW?
                      in some kind of form anyway?
                      cheap, no resources, low adm values
                      No, thats just a land unit version of the Privateer! So you can cause havok in peace time and not start a war!
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                      • #12
                        again - i think this is a really bad idea. Losing 2 population points in a city you've already lost is no price for getting 6 free units. No no no no. I think city resistance is perfectly adequate.
                        Up the Irons!
                        Rogue CivIII FAQ!
                        Odysseus and the March of Time
                        I think holding hands can be more erotic than 'slamming it in the ass' - Pekka, thinking that he's messed up

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                        • #13
                          i think its to simulate French resistance (I say that both because of WW2, and because france for some reason is the civ i kill first in almost every game!)
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                          • #14
                            i think its cuz off the culturaly linked starting posistions!
                            Help negate the vegiterian movement!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by zulu9812
                              again - i think this is a really bad idea. Losing 2 population points in a city you've already lost is no price for getting 6 free units. No no no no. I think city resistance is perfectly adequate.
                              hi ,

                              what about a mix of the two , ...

                              have a nice day
                              - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                              - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                              WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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