things i dont use in "civ3" that can be changed/modified in "ptw"

[WarpStorm]

Okay a simple one, catapults.

They are useless on attack (really). On defense though, they are great (in their era, of course). Put a couple in an important city and it will knock those hit points off, blunting the attack.

[Stuie]

Colonies would be more useful if more terrain were restricted from city building (particularly desert and tundra). This will be possible in the new editor, and I for one cannot wait. As for the other stuff:

-fortresses - agree.
-costal fortresses - agree.

units:
-Scout - agree.
-Explorer - agree.
-catapult - good for defense, or offense if six or so are grouped together.
-Privateer - agree.
-Cannon - same as catapult, only more so.
-Helicopter - agree.
-Stealth Fighter - agree.
-Cruise Missile - I modded the hell out of this and now wouldn't live without them.

Intelligence-
-Steal World Map - agree.
-Expose Enemy Spy - agree.
-Steal Plans - I've actually begun using this to help plan my attacks. It's nice to know exactly where everything is that you are up against.

[sgrig]

I think out of city improvements, Coastal Fortresses and SAM Batteries are the most pointless (has anyone actually ever seen them work?)

Units:

-Scout - I like these - allows to get lots of goody huts early on, and locate resources early on - effective use of scouts can drastically affect the course of the game

-Explorer - these are useless, I never used them for pillaging, because I would rather built Cavalry than Explorers

-Armies - rarely use them most of the time, only if I get a leader and there no wonders to be built, and no wonders will be available in the next 10 turns, then I might create an army

-Catapults and Cannons - good for long sieges of enemy cities, if a number of them is used at a time

-Privateer - with its current stats it is not able to sink any enemy shipping, so I never build these in default games (in my current game I made them stronger, so maybe I will use them more)

-Helicopter - I hardly ever use the airdropping feature (although it did come in useful once when my offensive force failed to capture an enemy city, so I airdropped a few infantry units using helicopters). I find it useful that they can rebase to any city while carrying units - useful for reinforcing remote cities without airports. I modded Helicopters so that they carry 2 foot units and have 2 movements and now they are really useful!

-Stealth Fighter - never used it with default values, but now I modded it to give it a greater bombardment strength, so now it is much more useful. I laso increased bombardment of Stealth Bombers and Jet Fighters.

-Cruise Missiles - as soon as I got the game, I increased range to 6 and now I allowed nuclear subs to carry cruise missiles, so now they are extremely useful.

-AEGIS cruiser - I find that the default stats make it too weak to be of any use, so I modded it so that it is a good modern replacement for the battleship.

Out of intelligence mission I agree that exposing enemy spies and stealing world maps are pointless. I do like however stealing enemy plans when planning offensive operations.

[Panag]

Re: things i rarely use in "civ3" maybe change/modify needed in "ptw&

Originally posted by m_m_x
terrain feature:
-colonies
-fortresses
-costal fortresses

units:
-Scout
-Explorer
-catapult
-Privateer
-Cannon
-Helicopter
-Stealth Fighter
-Cruise Missile

Intelligence-
-Steal World Map
-Expose Enemy Spy
-Steal Plans

hi ,

okay , you dont use them , but a lot of oter people do ,
it does not mean that you dont use them that they should be removed , however if you dont use them , why dont make some thing usefull out of it yourself , example , give the explorer a 2 defense value , and let him patrol outside areas , ...and so on , ..

have a nice day

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by LordAzreal


Well, assuming that you can, why is that a problem?

th problem is that if everyone has an edited game, MP will be a radical change.

all players in a MP game will need the same bic. ideally, there should be a "standard" bic for everyone to use that makes everyone happy.

if you're used to your corruption levels, your policies on lethal bombardment, and you join a game with totally different settings, you'll be in a world you know nothign about.

perhaps there should be several "offical apolyton match" bic files?

[Panag]

Originally posted by UberKruX


th problem is that if everyone has an edited game, MP will be a radical change.

all players in a MP game will need the same bic. ideally, there should be a "standard" bic for everyone to use that makes everyone happy.

if you're used to your corruption levels, your policies on lethal bombardment, and you join a game with totally different settings, you'll be in a world you know nothign about.

perhaps there should be several "offical apolyton match" bic files?

hi ,

okay , that might work , but then again , we shall have so many , ....

maybe we should get a D-base , and one can look into it before he or she play's , and accept's it .

have a nice day