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Appearances can be deceiving.
By that, Firaxis never admits Korea is in; nor does it admit the Hwacha is a UU, just an arty piece.
A lot of assuming is going on about what was implied or not denied in that chat. The questions were NOT answered directly in most cases, the cases that mattered for example.
If the Hwacha is a UU for Korea, then not being able to cause a GA would be a major disadvantage for the more militant players that use UU's for such purposes. But, his answer was: there are other ways to get a GA. Now, this could mean the Hwacha is a UU that can't cause GA's; it could mean the Hwacha is not a UU; it could mean a lot of things totally unrelated to whether it is a UU.
The Hwacha could be a new arty piece available to flesh out arty since it is so limited. It might not even be considered arty in the Civ 3 sense, consider the Cruise Missile as an example of this.
I don't know if Korea is in or not. I will find out soon enough, as will we all. It is just there is some faulty logic being used to determine that Korea is indeed in, when the evidence doesn't justify it. I wouldn't give it higher than a 75% chance of Korea being in. That said, other limited evidence gives other civs about the same chance of being in.
I suspect that will be pleasant/unpleasant surprises all around once all the details come in when it is actually released. By this, I mean, somethings that we are certain are in may not be, or may not be in the way some people wanted them to be.
I think discussion can be good and challenging.
By that, Firaxis never admits Korea is in; nor does it admit the Hwacha is a UU, just an arty piece.
A lot of assuming is going on about what was implied or not denied in that chat. The questions were NOT answered directly in most cases, the cases that mattered for example.
If the Hwacha is a UU for Korea, then not being able to cause a GA would be a major disadvantage for the more militant players that use UU's for such purposes. But, his answer was: there are other ways to get a GA. Now, this could mean the Hwacha is a UU that can't cause GA's; it could mean the Hwacha is not a UU; it could mean a lot of things totally unrelated to whether it is a UU.
The Hwacha could be a new arty piece available to flesh out arty since it is so limited. It might not even be considered arty in the Civ 3 sense, consider the Cruise Missile as an example of this.
I don't know if Korea is in or not. I will find out soon enough, as will we all. It is just there is some faulty logic being used to determine that Korea is indeed in, when the evidence doesn't justify it. I wouldn't give it higher than a 75% chance of Korea being in. That said, other limited evidence gives other civs about the same chance of being in.
I suspect that will be pleasant/unpleasant surprises all around once all the details come in when it is actually released. By this, I mean, somethings that we are certain are in may not be, or may not be in the way some people wanted them to be.
I think discussion can be good and challenging.
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