Improved City Lists and Leader Lists

[civman2000]

Crockette? A GL???? ANd Lee? A great leader, but not a great leader for the US....

I would suggest putting the leaders in historical order, that's how they are in the game (for the most part, I don't think the greek ones are but most are) and how they should be.

[History Guy]

Hey! Wait! If you remove Grant, please also remove Fremont, who was a bumbling moron. One need not go beyond reading his political and military life, especially his downright treasonous actions during the American Civil War. The guy was a moron, and certainly not by any standards a great leader.

[ranskaldan]

Alright.... :sensing an American heroes debate coming up:

does anyone have ideas for the other civs, i.e. Spanish, Arabs, Turks, Carthaginians, etc.?

[Imp. Montezuma]

Edit: list obsolete

[ranskaldan]

Thanks Imp

edit: I've started another thread for City names. Can a mod change the name of this thread to just "Heroes Names"?

[Jon Shafer]

Ahhhh, good ol' Suvarov, the scourge of Islam! Him and Kutusov sure did a number on the Ottomans during the late 18th and early 19th centuries.

[ranskaldan]

edit:

list is now in first thread.

[ranskaldan]

Edit:

updated list is now in the first post.

[kring]

Crockett is usually spelled this way.

D Crockett Link

[ranskaldan]

corrected.

thank you.

[kring]

You are welcome.

Congratulations on a project that is well done; also, very comprehensive in scope. I don't envy all the work you have put into it. I do enjoy the benefits of your labors, though.

Some of those names encourage me to read more about them. While I am very well read and have a nice library of my own books, over 200 when I stopped counting, I haven't read everything
The names will give me something to look up in my spare time.

[ranskaldan]

Actually...... most of the list was directly copied from this thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...&pagenumber=7. I think I'd have to credit much of the work to Kickasso, and the various participants who debated themselves to death over the English Heroes List.

Indeed I'm being encouraged to do the exact same thing: find out more about some of those names in the list.

But thanks for the compliment anyway.

[Imp. Montezuma]

Well, ranskaladan. It's better. I'm myself very bad in anglicized spelling
But please
Russians
~ Denis Davydov (because in Russia 'Davydov' as 'Smith' in Anglo-Saxon world)
- Etruscan (I have big respect for they as Predecessors of Romans, as Inventors of Latin alphabet: West-Greec->Etruscan->Latin)
Thanks

[Imp. Montezuma]

Ranskaladan, include all lists in Your first post, please.
I will remove my early lists for redability purpose.
Thanks

[Jon Shafer]

And you may want to change the Russian leader Kutuzov to Kutusov (as it's normally spelled in English).