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  • #31
    Hebrews - since the time of Abraham up to know.

    Israelis - since Israel was founded up to now.
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    • #32
      What about Incans? They have 6 letters, have we given up on them yet?

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      • #33
        It seems that there is difference between Israelis and Israelites, with the latter being the name of the ancient people (Hebrews) while Israelis are modern. So so it seems that in English there are 4 names for Jews: Jews, Hebrews, Israelis, Israelites.

        Sorry for going off-topic a bit, I was clarifying this for my self.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by civman2000
          What about Incans? They have 6 letters, have we given up on them yet?
          The Inca people are apparently the Inca, not Incans or Incas, so they only have 4 letters, so we can pretty much abandon them.

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          • #35
            Does anyone else see the "Heb" I was referring to? Or have Civman and I gone bonkers.
            http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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            • #36
              Re: Re: Unlocking the secrets of the new civ select screen

              Originally posted by Tassadar5000


              But we need to remember that eight of them say:

              Mongol Ancient
              Mongol Middle
              Mongol Industrial
              Mongol Modern
              Spain Ancient
              Spain Middle
              Spain Industrial
              Spain Modern

              Remember how the guy just clicked on the Civ select screen and it changed portraits from Ancient-Modern? Then a japanese person asked something, and the guy began saying "Well we tricked this up...."

              Or I could be wrong.
              hi ,

              maybe they started them up true the editor , civ a starts with this and this , .....we can do similar stuff now , ....

              have a nice day
              - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
              - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
              WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by monkspider
                Does anyone else see the "Heb" I was referring to? Or have Civman and I gone bonkers.
                hi ,

                you are not alone , ......

                however the Q was poor , ........

                have a nice day
                - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                • #38
                  But if sgrig is right, they would be called "Incans" on this screen

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                  • #39
                    But would it be Incans or Incas?
                    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                    • #40
                      As I said, it would be Inca, not Incas or Incans.

                      The plural for the Inca people is unchanged, it stays Inca. (Well, this is what my encyclopedia says, anyway)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by sgrig
                        As I said, it would be Inca, not Incas or Incans.

                        The plural for the Inca people is unchanged, it stays Inca. (Well, this is what my encyclopedia says, anyway)
                        The correct name for the main country of the inca is The Birú ("El Birú", now misspelled as "El Perú"). The Inca is the name that had the LEADER only, is like the Romans that were known as "The Empire" during the I -> V centuries AC .

                        Also, you must know that the totality of the Birú Influence is known as the "Tauantisuyu", the four lands (North, South, East and West) that includes Perú, Ecuador, Atacama (northern Chile) and Meseta Andina Boliviana (in Bolivia, the northern area, the one that is NOT next to Titicaca lake).

                        In south-america, the other two great civs are Aymará (in Bolivia) and Guaraní (with an own state: Paraguay, is also spoken in Brazil and Argentina).

                        Two minor ones are Carib and Arawak, but this are undeveloped and live in small islands and amazonian jungles.

                        EDIT: In fact, Paraguay is the only american (independent) state totally controlled by the original natives.
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                        • #42
                          Come on, look at the Aztecs. It says Aztecs there as country name! Thusly, leaderes will say "Does Aztecs wish to trade maps?". "Does Babylon wish to trade maps" sounds better, eh? The name of the Aztec country was Anauak, and Mexica was how they called themselves, the folk.
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                          • #43
                            I admit that you people are right, but does that mean firaxis will do it that way. I still think they might call them the Incans, even if that isn't right.

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                            • #44
                              I agree with civman 2000.

                              The reason they choose names is familiarity. How many people know the words Inca/Incans vs how many know the true names of the people/land? Same for other civs.

                              In some cases, they have made major mess ups: England vs Britain, for example. But again, to many outside of the UK this is a difference that would go unnoticed by most.

                              The same can be said of choice of leaders. Joan as an example.

                              I am not defending their choices, just explaining what I suspect is the reasoning behind them.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by kring
                                I agree with civman 2000.

                                The reason they choose names is familiarity. How many people know the words Inca/Incans vs how many know the true names of the people/land? Same for other civs.

                                In some cases, they have made major mess ups: England vs Britain, for example. But again, to many outside of the UK this is a difference that would go unnoticed by most.

                                The same can be said of choice of leaders. Joan as an example.

                                I am not defending their choices, just explaining what I suspect is the reasoning behind them.
                                Here I agree with you that Firaxis does not necessarily make things historically accurate. But then surely same would have to apply to "Hebrews" - ie if that civ was in, Firaxis would probably call it "Israelis" because it is more familiar to people.

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