Unlocking the secrets of the new civ select screen

[monkspider]

In an attempt to indentify the name of the last civilization, I have begun an intensive study of the civ select screens. I will attach a file I am using as a tool. I gladly welcome anyone willing to help out.
Here is the order I have so far
1 rome 13 Egypt
2 Greece 14 Babylon
3 german 15 Russia
4 China 16 America
5 Japan 17 France
6 India 18 Persia
7 Aztecs 19 Zululand
8 Iroqouis 20 England
9 21
10 22
11 23
12 24
13 carthaginians 25 random

I determined that 13 was Carthage by the fact that they are referred to as the Carthaginians in that old screenshot, plus Carthaginians is the only possible thing that could take up that many letters.
We need to fit in the following civs somewhere
Arabs
Ottomans (turks)
Gauls (celts)
spanish
mongols
vikings

and the unknown
Incas?
Korea?
Mayans?

And one with good graphics programs or really sharp eyes can lend a hand here I think.
I have attached the following three screenshots from the recent video, as well as the old civ select screen for comparison purposes.

[monkspider]

grr, the spacing didn't work right on my last post, especially in the last couple rows.
I hope you can make sense of what I was trying to do.
And one more thing, there seems to be some discrepancys between chart one and two. I think it could be because they were using two to show off the different time periods of Genghis and Isabella, so maybe some of those long civilization names are "industrial isabella" and the such.

[Darkworld Ark]

In #3, I think I see Inca, because there's no other civ that ends with nca

[Darkworld Ark]

Although that could be "rica" very blurry...

[monkspider]

yeah good thoughts guys ,but I determined that to be America

[Nubclear]

Re: Unlocking the secrets of the new civ select screen

Originally posted by monkspider
In an attempt to indentify the name of the last civilization, I have begun an intensive study of the civ select screens. I will attach a file I am using as a tool. I gladly welcome anyone willing to help out.
Here is the order I have so far
1 rome 13 Egypt
2 Greece 14 Babylon
3 german 15 Russia
4 China 16 America
5 Japan 17 France
6 India 18 Persia
7 Aztecs 19 Zululand
8 Iroqouis 20 England
9 21
10 22
11 23
12 24
13 carthaginians 25 random

I determined that 13 was Carthage by the fact that they are referred to as the Carthaginians in that old screenshot, plus Carthaginians is the only possible thing that could take up that many letters.
We need to fit in the following civs somewhere
Arabs
Ottomans (turks)
Gauls (celts)
spanish
mongols
vikings

and the unknown
Incas?
Korea?
Mayans?

And one with good graphics programs or really sharp eyes can lend a hand here I think.
I have attached the following three screenshots from the recent video, as well as the old civ select screen for comparison purposes.

But we need to remember that eight of them say:

Mongol Ancient
Mongol Middle
Mongol Industrial
Mongol Modern
Spain Ancient
Spain Middle
Spain Industrial
Spain Modern

Remember how the guy just clicked on the Civ select screen and it changed portraits from Ancient-Modern? Then a japanese person asked something, and the guy began saying "Well we tricked this up...."

Or I could be wrong.

[Jon Shafer]

Here's a funny one. Maybe they don't know what the final civ is yet.

[Lucilla]

Originally posted by Trip
Here's a funny one. Maybe they don't know what the final civ is yet.

It wouldn't surprise me. I can imagine them following these threads, desperately trying to find out whether they should include the Incans, Gauls or Celts without disappointing to many people.

[Jon Shafer]

You never know.

I think that the animation of the Hwacha is pretty conclusive though. Why would they show a demo of a unit from the Feudal pack like that, and the rest of the animations are for UUs of other civs? I think that Korea is pretty definite.

[monkspider]

But why would they not include a single American civ? That's simply unthinkable.
So despite the wealth of evidence for Korea, if the Inca aren't in, then they can't be in either. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding regarding the Arabs or Ottomans, who knows?

[sgrig]

Screen 1 looks like the genuine screen, rather than the one engineered for E3.

As far as the new civs are concerned (the last 8 civs on the screen), I make them out to be:

Mongols ??
Spanish Ottomans
Gauls Arabs
Carthagenians Australians??

Can anyone confirm that the last civ name looks like Australians??

It certainly begins with Au..., I think.

[monkspider]

It does rather look like Australians but I'm pretty sure its' random

[monkspider]

anyone out there with magnification tools?

[Cesa]

Use the length of the names to sort in the ones we know. I believe Sgrig is right at least about:

11: 23: Ottomans
12: Gauls 24: Arabs
13: Carthagenians

And as stated 25 probably is "random".

One of 10/22 is probably Mongols, and the other one is equally long, could be Spanish.

Edit: On the other hand, 25 is probably not "random". There are 24 entries for 24 civs, "random" should be below the picture shown.

[sgrig]

In each column with civ names, there are 12 entries, so in total there are 24, not 25 as monkspider counted. So the numbering has to be changed a bit. After watching the clip again, I noticed that the 'random' option is not present anymore in the civ-selection box.

I think it is agreed now that we have:

1 Rome 13 Egypt
2 Greece 14 Babylon
3 Germany 15 Russia
4 China 16 America
5 Japan 17 France
6 India 18 Persia
7 Aztecs 19 Zululand
8 Iroqouis 20 England
9 21
10 22 Ottomans
11 Gauls 23 Arabs
12 Carthagenians 24

9,10,21 seem to be of similar length, with one them definitely being Mongols (I think one of 9 or 10 is definitely Spanish). It is possible that 9,10,21 are Mongols, Spanish, Vikings in some order because of the similar lengths. 24 looks like it begins with Au...

What I'm not quite sure about, is that the original civs are listed as country names (ie "Russia", not "Russians"), but from what we see, it seems that the new civs are listed as tribe names (ie "Spanish", not "Spain). In order to be consistent, we should have Spain, Arabia, Gaul, Carthage, and whatever country names are chosen for Ottomans and Vikings.