If you were to make a 2nd UU for each civ...

[Inverse Icarus]

... what would it be.

please state the civ name and a description of the unit (and why)

i'll start.

i think the americans should have a suped up ironclad, because (i believe) america is accredited for inventing the first ironclad.

they could give it a few extra attack points, or defense points (old ironsides ).

my friend suggested a bombard range of 2, but i think thats too advantegous.

[Darkworld Ark]

I think the Germans should either have Jet Planes (they invented them first, although they came to late) or U Boats. THe Japanese should have either Kamakazi Planes or Sub Carriers. These are most likely going to be in the WWII unit pack, but I want them in the broader spectrim, & not just in a WWII senario.

[Destroyer]

England -

Special Air Service or Super Mega Longbowmen

[statusperfect]

The Russians should have the Nuclear Missile XXL Deluxe.

[Jon Shafer]

Hmmm, this could be fun.

Germany - Panzer and Uboat

Britain - Ship of the Lines should be for everyone, just give them a souped up one. That and Longbowmen (and crossbowmen should be given to everyone instead)

Russia - Cossacks and really really cheap but less efficient riflemen

Vikings - Longboats and Berserkers

Americans - F15 and "Patriots" perhaps... ironclads weren't exactly "unique" to the US, and that might be a prerequisite.

[civman2000]

ironclads were invented by the british (i think) and used in the crimean war, a decade before the civil war

[Jon Shafer]

Actually the French did. They just fitted iron plates to the sides of wooden ships in 1855 against Russia. Not sure if you could consider those ironclads, but they were the first metal-armored ships ever. The Monitor VS the Merrimac was most famous because it was the first engagement between 2 ironclads, but it wasn't the first time an ironclad had seen battle.

[Spiffor]

For the French : Special knight (most important weapon in the French medieval military, with almost no use of other possible weapons). Napoleonic soldier, as France was the first country to use massive conscription, and almost conquered Europe because of it.

For the Spanish : Tercio ! Something historically accurate, and the Spaniards like them.

For the Russians : something like a quicker settler, to reflect their ability to expand on such a huge territory.

For the Americans : the cowboy (now you Yanks will feel the shame of having a lame UU )

For the Iroquois : a special, quicker musketman (I think he's called the "brave")

For the Germans : a swordsman like unit, like those who destroyed whole Legions and took over Rome.

For the Persians (modern Iranians) : a cheaper infantry (Iran-Irak war)

[Jon Shafer]

The Germans defeated Rome with only what technology was available. They didn't really have any new units... they were all barbarian tribes at that point with primitive weapons. Saying they had Swordsmen at all might even be pushing it.

[Jon Shafer]

Double post, sorry.

[ScreamingViking]

Americans: Minutemen (musketmen with improved defense).
English: Crusaders (knights with 4-3-3).
Germans: UBoats (submarines with an earlier pre-req)
Japan: Kamikaze (perhaps like an early cruise missle?)
Russians: Urban warriors (give them a cool Russian name. High-defense value riflemen or infantry to honor the defense of Stalingrad in WWII.
Vikings: Longship and Berserker.
Spanish: Conquistador and Tercio.
Romans: Legionary and Fire Archers ("On my signal, unleash Hell").
Greeks: Hoplite and Fire Trireme.

That's it. I'm out of ideas.

[SpencerH]

England

Longbowman and Highland Infantry

[Pythagoras]

Americans - Some sort of musketeer guerilla fighter, Americans adopted a good many tactics from the native americans. (In fighting in the fronteir and against the British). Maybe the Americans should get the 'brave' concept that was mentioned before. Or maybe the Americans could have a musketeer that could completly heal anywhere after a few turns.

British - British (Welsh) Longbowman? 5-1-1?

French - a rifleman that is 1-1-5 (CALL LE RETREAT!) hehe

Russians - a really cheap somewhat decent modern unit. Something that shows their historic strength to be able to fight on even if millions are dead. (Better conscript ability?)

Greeks - faster trireme?

Romans - trireme with higher attack. This might sound odd and historically wrong. The romans had pretty simple sea tactics. Latch on and board them using their legions. So I think that this can be represented with a higher trireme attack.

[XMon]

Americans - Minuteman

English - SAS

Russian - Spetsnaz

German - Teutonic Knight

French - Legionnaire

Spanish - Tercio

Persians - Hashishim

Aztecs - Eagle Knight

Japanese - Ninja

Chinese - Chu Ko Nu

Egypt - Mamluke

India - Thugee

Korea - Hwarang

Viking - Wolfcoat

Greek - Sacred Band

Roman - Praetorian Guard

Just some ideas....

[sgrig]

Just some thoughts for the second UUs:

Germany: - Heavy Artillery (replaces artillery)
England: - Longbowmen (everyone else - Crossbowmen)
Rome: - Trireme (replaces galley)
Greece: - Greek Fire (possibly a galley with lethal bombard)
Egypt: - Mamelukes
Russia - T-34 Tank (a cheaper version of the standard tank)
America- Super Aircraft carrier (carries 8 air units, in conjunction with F-15, it would represent America's modern power)
China - Junk (to replace Caravel)
Japan - Super battleship
France - Cuirassier (replacement for Cavalry)
India - Sepoy (replaces rifleman)

Don't have any ideas for Aztecs, Persians, Babylonians, Zulus, Iroquious