More XP speculation fun! Predict the Civ leaders!

[nationalist]

Originally posted by ScreamingViking
The Vikings could have the longship, but how about this:

The Vikings UU could be a berserker/raider unit. This would be like a swordsman, but would be capable of amphibious assaults - like the marine unit. This would reflect the vikings' greatest military strength: the ability to raid coastal towns and cities from the sea.

That is a great idea! It would be something different than the standard +1 in a stat thing. You should post this as a thread or something to get Firaxis' attention. Would be a real incintive to use the Vikings.

[ScreamingViking]

If somebody could advise me on how to do it, I'd be glad to.

[nationalist]

Originally posted by ScreamingViking
If somebody could advise me on how to do it, I'd be glad to.

Just hit the "new thread" button on the bottom of the page, and then type in what you want to type.

[civman2000]

no, amphib assault is worthless overall and even more worthless in the ancient age

[Tiberius]

6) The Ottomans (Middle Eastern). Leader: Suleiman the Magnificient. Attributes: Religious, Militaristic. Special Unit: Janissaries (replaces...uhhh...).

Replaces the musketman, IMO.
A possible leader could also be Mehmet II, the Conqueror, but Suleiman is fine.

8) Israel (Middle Eastern). Leader: King Solomon. Attributes: Religious, Industrious. Special Unit: Slinger (replaces...).

I'd make them religious, commercial.

Anyway, a very good and detailed description of the possible new civs and their abilities and leaders could be find here:
Civ3-Civilizations forum - Extra Pack Project

[Alfonso]

Hola amig@s

Sobre el tema de las nuevas civilizaciones y sobre todo la Española, yo propongo lo siguiente.

Lider, Carlos I, ya que es ese su nombre en españa, tambien es conocido como Carlos V, pero es de Alemania. y sobre todo por ser el creador del Imperio Español.

La unidad especial, Los Tercios, como bonificacion, puntos de movimiento y en ataque. y Promocion a Rifleman

Un fuerte abrazo y disculpas por no escribir en Ingles.

[XarXo]

Please, remember that is Castilla, not Spain. You know that England is a part of United Kingdom, yes? The same happens here. In the schools of Argentina, Peru, SPAIN, Bolivia, México and the rest of countries they learn the Castillian language, they accept that speak the Castillian language, and, the official good version of the language is the Valladolid's Castillian, the older capital of Castilla. So, choose an option:

a)

- Atawalpa as the best Incan emperor?
- Bill Gates as leader for U.S. ?
- Boris Yeltsin for Russia?
- Unique Unit for Chinese: Tiger & Dragon?
- Resource for Japanese UU: Noodles?
- U.S. UU: Mc Donald's Burger? (as biochemichal weapon / culture)

or

b) You know what should be here, yes?

Is SOO pathetic that the actual chinese leader is Mao Tse Tung, please, no more mistakes. Thanks!

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by History Guy
Erm...how's this...
8) Israel (Middle Eastern). Leader: King Solomon. Attributes: Religious, Industrious. Special Unit: Slinger (replaces...).

I think the UU for Isreal should be Merkava Mark III tanks, which replace Modern Armor. These represent Isreal's incredible military strength in the modern age. Slingers? C'mon!

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Trip

I think the UU for Isreal should be Merkava Mark III tanks, which replace Modern Armor. These represent Isreal's incredible military strength in the modern age. Slingers? C'mon!

It would be nice to have another modern age UU, but as an American, the idea of the Israelies having a beter unit than us is somewhat distatesful to me.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
It would be nice to have another modern age UU, but as an American, the idea of the Israelies having a beter unit than us is somewhat distatesful to me.

So just blast the darn things with F-15s then.
Besides, Isreal's neighbors could be considered to have "Modern Armor", and yet the Isreali tanks are by and far superior. I just think that they represent Isreal's military climax better than any other unit for any other time.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Trip

So just blast the darn things with F-15s then.
Besides, Isreal's neighbors could be considered to have "Modern Armor", and yet the Isreali tanks are by and far superior. I just think that they represent Isreal's military climax better than any other unit for any other time.

I guess you're right, I don't know what else would be a good unit, Personally, I would rather the US get the better modern armor, and the Israelis get something to represent their airforce. (but that would no doubt trigger complaints of American bias, as an upgraded m.a. would be extremely powerful, though at that point, 1 point here or there probably won't make that much of a business.)

[Jon Shafer]

Well by that philosophy, stealth fighers and stealth bombers should be U.S. UUs as well, but then people would get upset over that too. I think that Isreal having a stronger unit than the U.S. is fine... it better represents the situation of today (the Isreali tanks are second only to the M1A2 Abrams {at least of known tanks} in the world). If you were really stubborn, you could make the American flying-shooting-tracked-submersible American UU that can traverse land, sea or air, and is a 50.50.50 with a bombardment of 3,000.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Trip
you were really stubborn, you could make the American flying-shooting-tracked-submersible American UU that can traverse land, sea or air, and is a 50.50.50 with a bombardment of 3,000.

sounds about right to me

My point was: Americans are at their height now, shouldn't their UU be the last on the food chain? Maybe you disagree, whatever. I'm not asking for multiple uus for the americans (though they deserve it )

[Mikhail]

Modern Armor is already a super powerful unit, there's no reason to improve on it. It would really be overkill. and army of "far superior" modern armors? You've got to be kidding me!

Make it replace tank, or use the aforementioned slinger (biblical times WERE their shining period. it makes sense that that would be where their UU comes from).

Personally, I like the idea of the highest end units (stealth aircraft, modern armor, etc.) something that EVERYONE can get.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Mikhail
Modern Armor is already a super powerful unit, there's no reason to improve on it. It would really be overkill. and army of "far superior" modern armors? You've got to be kidding me!

Make it replace tank, or use the aforementioned slinger (biblical times WERE their shining period. it makes sense that that would be where their UU comes from).

Personally, I like the idea of the highest end units (stealth aircraft, modern armor, etc.) something that EVERYONE can get.

That last point is well taken. It seems to me that should be the way as well. That each civ has a shining moment that it has to seize, and when its over, its over. By having an advanced modern armor, the Israelis would always have an advantage in the end game. And since the end game can last for maybe even a thousand years, would not be a good idea. in the end, they should have equivalent weapons and have to slug it out. No advantages then.