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  • Money for Multiplayer [NO RANT]

    firstly, don't rant about firaxis charging us for MP, because:
    • i've been saying this would be how it happened
    • it makes business sense
    • ranting will only make mark or ming close the thread


    now, let's talk rationally.

    obviously people are upset. i've been saying for months now that MP should be a free patch for loyal civ fans, but it appears it's not going that way.

    I'd like some input (again no flames or rants) about what people think this would cost. Dan should be able to answer this but is probably gagged not to. they wouldn;t charge us more than $30 would they? (i think it should be $20 tops but i'm thinking from a business perspective).

    EDIT: and the irony here is exams started today, and i came to the boards to mockingly tell people to email me if MP was comming out. OH THE IRONY
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  • #2
    I demand this whine and cheese thread be CLOSED!

    :d

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    • #3
      As long as there are features other than multiplayer included (such as better editors, new civs, etc.), then I'd still pay for it. I just wouldn't use the MP feature.
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      • #4
        1) if the people who wish they had mp in the original game could open their and scream their 6-month anger out, it would do everyone a great service. there is NO need to discuss again why and how MP was not included in the original game. thank you

        2) expansions usually cost $30.
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        • #5
          input

          dont think they could possibly charge more than 20-30$

          It isn't going to be released very long after the original release of civ3, and i doubt it will be standalone (not requiring the original for it to work). if they DID charge between 30-50 ( i payed 45 canadian, and it was on sale ).. i wouldnt buy it... 100$ for something that should be single purchase is outrageous.

          but yeah... anything more than 30$ would be overpriced.
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          • #6
            from what i read it sounds like it's just 8 more civs and MP.

            maybe the editor will be there too.

            anyone care to talk about the "turnless" mode? sound RTS-esque?
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            • #7
              also, i'd like to guess what 8 civs they added, so here's the UberKruX guessification:

              Spanish
              Mongols
              Inca
              Viking
              Carthage

              and i dont know any more i can think of offhand.

              i would like an australian-based civ though, would be fun on a world map.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkG
                1) if the people who wish they had mp in the original game could open their and scream their 6-month anger out, it would do everyone a great service. there is NO need to discuss again why and how MP was not included in the original game. thank you

                2) expansions usually cost $30.
                1. Tempt not thy brother to anger

                2. I find some irony here, that Brian got ran off by Sid because he wanted to do a real time Civ3 and now we get, ta da, turnless mode multiplay.
                This is shaping up as a really weak expansion in my opinion. Unless they have a ton of other stuff, its just a patch IMHO.

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                • #9
                  They said scenarios. But nothing about a scenario editor did they?
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #10
                    Hopefully they make it as scenario-friendly as Civ II ToT. I want to see lots and lots of good scenarios being made by good modmakers.
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                    • #11
                      "They said scenarios. But nothing about a scenario editor did they?"

                      This is Civilization III: Conflicts in Civilization

                      We will have to wait until Civilization III: Fantastic Worlds for a full editor.
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                      • #12
                        I won't go multiplayer, only because my dial-up sucks, and the cable company told me to stuff it when I asked for a cable modem (They said anyone who is connected to the last pole can't get cable, which is BS).

                        With that said, Firaxis would have to do TWO things to get me to buy an MP XP.

                        1: Price. If's it's more then $20 count me out, no matter what goodies are in it.

                        2: Features. Just adding new civs won't cut it for me. A really kicken' editor with city/unit placements would be an excellent good start. Others, such as additional civ traits and a new tech tree. Perhaps a Furture tech tree after moden age, complete with Sci-Fi units such as Mechs or, heaven forbid ( ) Metal Gears.

                        2½: (and this is just a preference), don't just make this a "Only available to buy online". I prefer to buy it at the store, for some reason, it's more tangable and I can just turn it back if either A: Does not meet expections of #2, or B: The CD is corrupt or scratch or whatever.



                        As a side note, to keep the costs down, and the fact that's it's only an XP, which requires the full version of the game, why not just sell it as a CD in a jewel case? Maybe a 10 page insert booklet with an overview on some new features and of course, newbie install instructions.
                        Last edited by Thrawn05; May 1, 2002, 22:05.
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                        • #13
                          $27.98 @ wal-mart
                          Sorry....nothing to say!

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                          • #14
                            If they are charging for MP XP, I don't care, because MP is not for me. What I don't like is the idea that rather than finish the editor in a patch, they will charge for that. The editor is woefully incomplete, as it does not yet allow civ placement, scenario-building, unit adding, civ adding, tech adding, etc. etc. ad infinitum. My hunch is, however, the patches are being released with just enough fixes to whet appetites for an XP that they will charge $30 for, MINIMUM.

                            Oh, and the Diablo II expansion pack was $40 retail. I refused to pay that and got it for $25 total from dragon.CA.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ACooper
                              $27.98 @ wal-mart
                              shame on you, wally world prices end in 6.....27.96

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