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  • #31
    Oh another bug is that with PTW 1.14f Hotseat the AI simply doesn't expand. I know it won't in Regicide or any of the other goofy modes, but my friend and I have been playing 4-5 Diety AI Civs and within maybe 50 turns we have a significant (25 point) advantage over them. When we see their Civs they have about six cities, level 1 or 2, no roads connecting and plenty of untapped resources within their territory.

    In contrast, when we both play Diety level single player games the AI expands like mad and we get our asses royally handed to us.

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    • #32
      I would think that the memory problem after the game, is the OS's fault. It is Windows that does not clear the memory, except after (running other programs) decides that it can. It use to be up to 2 minutes with previous OS's from Microsoft.

      I always check the task manager or system monitor program, and the memory is never cleared.

      All PTW can do is release the memory after the game, it is the OS that actually clears or finally releases the memory, and as above, the game merely shows the faults of the OS, like before.

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      • #33
        I have never had that problem before PTW, so it looks like a PTW problem...
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        • #34
          Originally posted by ADG
          I have never had that problem before PTW, so it looks like a PTW problem...
          I agree, it doesn't other program as much either.

          Just IE and mail programs (on my pc)
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Raion
            I would think that the memory problem after the game, is the OS's fault.
            For the record, I have never seen this memory problem. It appears to me that Dissident is the only one who saw it and he thought that it was the same problem as other applications being slow after PtW exits. Well, IMHO it's not.

            Another bug: when you press CTRL+SHIFT+P in the game, you get a dialog box asking for your password, then (if you entered the correct password) another one asking for the new password. This latter dialog box however doesn't have any text field where you can actually enter the password. It just has a label saying "Enter a Password for " and then there is an OK and a Cancel button, but you can't enter a damn thing.

            I think I was able to change the password like this on at least one occasion, so it might not be consistently broken, but I am not sure.

            As a side question, any news on when we will actually get a patch? Having to do the beta testing for Firaxis is bad enough, but doing it without eventually getting fixes for the problems would be really annoying...
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dissident
              actually it might be like 2 seconds . It only gives me a low memory message if I restart immediately after closing down.
              This happens to me, too. If I restart immediately I get a low memory message and the game doesn't start. After a few seconds everything's back to normal and I can launch PtW again.

              I'm using a Duron 1200 MHz, 256 MB RAM, Windows Me.
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              • #37
                EDIT: Nevermind, I misunderstud something
                Last edited by Adagio; January 20, 2003, 13:46.
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                • #38
                  ADG: I thought you said you have the problem where the applications are slow after closing PtW. I have that problem too and I think that's a different one than the low memory problem (I can't start PtW quickly enough to get the low memory message).

                  I am using Win2K with 256MB, btw.
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                  • #39
                    Oh, then I misunderstood what he was talking about...
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                    • #40
                      Diplomacy screen pops up at the beginning of every turn even though both parties have been clicking on "exit" for several turns already and there is nothing offered on either side. Unfortunately I don't know how we got to this stage. I suspect that the other party offered a tech that I didn't accept and then I learnt it from another civ. So perhaps there is a ghost offer on his side that we can't see any more.
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                      • #41
                        I think you must explicitely press 'clear table' to make the diplomacy screen go away.

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                        • #42
                          Thanks for the tip. For the record, I still consider this a bug (ie. diplomacy screen should not come up if it's empty).
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                          • #43
                            Yeah, its a damn irritating bug! Hopefully Flandrien's tip will help.
                            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Flandrien
                              I think you must explicitely press 'clear table' to make the diplomacy screen go away.
                              I just checked this an the "clear table" button is not there when this happens.
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                              Did you know that in GalCiv, the AI makes you think you are playing against humans? Stop laughing, they mean it!!!

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                              • #45
                                Delmar is right, there is no clear table on the human diplomacy screen. Human-AI is fine. Its only human human diplomacy where it's a problem.
                                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                                Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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