epic game PBEM with multi-turn-sessions

[Redboy]

Actually I would like to play, Any race thats available.

[Rommel2D]

To be honest, I prefer to play out the 'slow boring' parts building up to the action. I'd like to start an 'extreme diplomacy' four-person game. But again, there's stuff in the tournament I haven't covered or updated yet, and it looks like game B needs a bump start or something, I just don't have the time right now...

[jshelr]

I'm ready to play at jshelr@aol.com

hope you still have an opening.

[sabrewolf]

so far it looks quite good with the multi-settler start. chrisiusmaximus, sabrewolf, redboy and jshelr are interested.

the question is: can you play the times written in the first post? if not, i'm worried that this will be another PBEM with an average of less than a turn per day

edit: in approx. 2 weeks, when the tournament is set and running, we can look for the next possible PBEM, this time with rommel, who's been waiting for a long time...

but to be honest, i feel bad setting up all the games (not because of the work, but because of the "thread starter = sabrewolf" everywhere .
so please please please... ANYONE... set up a PBEM with me as a guest

[jshelr]

Looking forward to the game. Totally random is perfectly agreeable. Russ

[Redboy]

Sounds good to me

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by Rommel2D
To be honest, I prefer to play out the 'slow boring' parts building up to the action. I'd like to start an 'extreme diplomacy' four-person game. But again, there's stuff in the tournament I haven't covered or updated yet, and it looks like game B needs a bump start or something, I just don't have the time right now...

btw rommel, what do you mean by "extreme diplomacy"?

[sabrewolf]

multi-settler-medieval start

here are my thoughts for the new game:

regular epic rules, except:
- we start with 4-6 settlers (depending on world size) and a few workers
- all ancient techs known to everybody (so medieval start)
- highish difficulty level (the AI can't outREX you anymore because we start with lots of settlers)

these modficiations changes several things about the gameplay:

1) early UUs are outdated from the beginning ==> can by solved by chosing civs or disabling ancient ones

2) traits are weakened, eg.:
--- scientific won't get the free tech at the beginning of the medieval ages, ~12 chances less to get an SGL
--- expansionist won't get any free techs from huts, popping cities from huts doesn't make so much difference anymore
--- seafaring, units are faster anyway, everyone builds galleys from beginning
- agricultural is strengthend (monarchy&republic available from the beginning, so 3 food from the beginning on), BUT also weakened (REXing less important)
imho the other traits aren't affected that much.
==> remove all traits or give everyone all... i favour the last


currently i'd set up the game as follows:
* standard size, civs CAN be chosen, everything random
* human players start with 4 settlers and 4 workers
* everyone has all traits
* AI: around demigod, but the AI has 6-8 settlers.


please post any thoughts to this idea... and if you agree, please confirm

[sabrewolf]

(bump)
hey people, please answer... anything... hello? ...

[Redboy]

I'm not sure about the completely balance traits. I would say weed out the obsolete races and call it good. Other than that I think it looks very good.

[sabrewolf]

ah, an answer... thanks

what do you mean with "weed out". just the obsolete UU-civs? or also the ones with "useless" traits?

imho, i'd leave everything in and people can chose their civ. eg. if you like the mayan traits, you might even not mind having a useless UU.

further opinions?

[Redboy]

Agreed

[Rommel2D]

Originally posted by sabrewolf
btw rommel, what do you mean by "extreme diplomacy"?

I'd like to use all the optional diplomacy rules from the IC Tournament, plus a minor new idea, the 'messenger'; To further emphasize the use of embassies, the only way to communicate before one is established would be to edit the name(s) of your unit(s) to the message to be conveyed- ie no email communication without an embassy.

With or without this rule, I'd like to start an ultra-quickie game- all IC Tournament settings with two changes:
*Accel Production
*Elimination Mode
I need to see if Elimination Mode works Ok with PBEM, just to find out how fast a complete game can be done. Are there three fellow guinea pi- er, volunteers?

[ChrisiusMaximus]

the four settler start sounds good, but AI should get same not more. As to the traits I think it will not be the civ we know if we all had all traits, though I cant knock it till Ive tried it. As were in the middle ages for this why not have a few defensive units too, enough to garrison your four settlements, and a scout each too.

Accelerated production might be good but not sure how AI will cope with this, and at a higher diff level will the AI if it does cope well with Accelerated production, will we be able to compete as it spits out units with its huge production advantages.

Not sure I like the unit naming message thing, sounds like a exploit to me

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by Rommel2D

I'd like to use all the optional diplomacy rules from the IC Tournament, plus a minor new idea, the 'messenger'; To further emphasize the use of embassies, the only way to communicate before one is established would be to edit the name(s) of your unit(s) to the message to be conveyed- ie no email communication without an embassy.

so you mean my warrior i renamed into "will-trade-alphabet-for-masonry" could meet your scout you call "incense-to-the-west-is-mine!-touch-it-and-i-archer-rush-you"

ok, maybe i didn't really get it...

With or without this rule, I'd like to start an ultra-quickie game- all IC Tournament settings with two changes:
*Accel Production
*Elimination Mode
I need to see if Elimination Mode works Ok with PBEM, just to find out how fast a complete game can be done. Are there three fellow guinea pi- er, volunteers?

i saw you asking for it in the "30% Iron Civer Tournament" and originally wanted fast reserve players to play this. if not enough are found, i'll volunteer...