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  • and onto Mickeyj.

    Regarding the patches, from what I can gather, v1.13 was an 'add on' to v1.12 rather than a complete patch, and was issued to some players over at CDG for testing, who then leaked it. v1.15 is also an add on - hence the recommendation to install v1.13 first.

    I believe that v1.15 is based on Soren Johnson's model for corruption, which he describes as follows:

    This is how corruption works now. (1.15 beta)

    There are two kinds of corruption, distance-based and empire-based.

    Distance-based is determined by the distance from the city to the nearest seat of government (Palace, FP, SPH). The farther the distance, the higher the corruption.

    Empire-based is determined by the "city rank," which is calculated by assigning a number to each city in progression from the capital outward. The higher the city rank, the higher the corruption. Further, if the city rank is higher than the "optimal city number" (OCN) - which is map-dependent - the rate at which empire-based corruption goes up increases.

    These two forms of corruption are additive. Thus, if a city has total corruption, it might be from high distance-based corruption, high empire-based corruption, or medium amounts of both.

    Building a Forbidden Palace (or SPH) does two things. First, it provides a new center for cities to measure their distance-based corruption. Second, it increases the OCN by 3/8 (was 1/4 in 1.13).

    This method is how corruption was originally intended to work. 1.12 and 1.13 use this model (the main difference between the two being the FP increase in OCN). Civ3 and PtW did not quite follow this model because there was a bug involving how city rank was calculated.

    This "new" model allows for two cores, with the second being weaker than the first. One interesting aspect of this system is that it doesn't matter how far the two cores are apart from each other as distance-corruption is calculated from the FP and city rank is an absolute number (9th city, 10th city, etc.). I mention this only to show that building one's FP on a new continent can be very worthwhile.
    So it seems that we now have corruption calculated as it was originally intended, which was why I was keen to install the patch. However I'm not trying to dictate terms here by any means, and if we would all rather stick with v1.12 until the end of Feb, then I've got no problem with that whatsoever!

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    • Sent to Shogun.

      I'm gonna do a bit of reading on the new patch today, I'll post my comments later.

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      • Over to Paddy...
        Haven't been here for ages....

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        • and on to Andy
          Gurka 17, People of the Valley
          I am of the Horde.

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          • spun out to Mickeyj

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            • Good hands, and off to shogun

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              • Well, it's now Friday and we haven't heard from Shogun all week. I know he's about because I've seen his posts on other threads.

                What's the story Shogun? Lets keep this game rolling!

                [Edit: Bollocks! I've just noticed that in fact it's Thursday - see what happens when you work too hard!! ]
                Last edited by Andydog; January 22, 2004, 05:57.

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                • sorry guys.... just sent to Paddy.
                  Haven't been here for ages....

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                  • and on to Andy

                    Gurka 17, People of the Valley
                    I am of the Horde.

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                    • flicked to Mickeyj

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                      • back to shogun

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                        • over to paddy
                          Haven't been here for ages....

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                          • recieved from paddy, over to mickeyj.

                            Good luck guys in the stories contest!

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                            • Over to shogun.

                              Shogun/paddy,
                              I've never really got to into the stories as i generally don't have the time (especially at work) to read the stories on the computer. Perhaps a way to get more people involved is to attach the completed story as a doc file once finished (I'm assuming you type on word and then cut and paste onto the thread) as tring to read a printed copy with all the comments is a 'mare. That way readers could print out the final story to read while on the the train etc.

                              Let me know what you guys think.

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                              • Thanks Andy.

                                Mickey, for several years I suffered a similar fate.

                                This site does have a section that allows you to get a printable version, which is great for on the trains. (see pic)

                                I used to edit out the comments before printing them, so I ould enjoy just the story, then one day I was challenged to read the comments as well, as they can be like being invited into the Oval Office for a meeting with The Prez and the Joint Chiefs...

                                I do like the idea of having a doc file too. This gives me something to think about.

                                Either way, I am glad you like them.

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                                Gurka 17, People of the Valley
                                I am of the Horde.

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