Another Succession Game?

[snoopy369]

"Extra" workers should probably be added to a city. I meant that I rarely have truly "extra" workers until after RR. I usually can road useless mountains (that will later be valuable) and things like that until RRs come around. But, i don't recommend 'sleeping' workers unless you're very close to RRs - it's better if its 20+ turns to add to cities and take advantage of extra production, and then re-make them later for RRs.

Often when you change from Despotism to (whatever else), you have a sudden change in the "optimal square improvement". For example, plain or 'bonus' grassland (2/0/0 or 2/1/0 food/shield/trade, unimproved) should ALWAYS be mined until you're out of despotism, unless you need to take water to another square, but after you're in another gov., you might want to irrigate some grassland, depending on the individual situations. On the other hand, grassland with a cow should almost always be irrigated when possible in Despotism, but when the city is 12 you probably want to mine it instead (unless you still need the food).

You often have 15-20 or more changes like this that you can do in the Middle Ages...

[Paddy]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I think Paddy is unable to play right now, but I'll give him a few days in case he's able to play this one (and I need a bit of time anyhow).

ok, I have the save, and I can play... do I have a green for go

[snoopy369]

Ahh, good! Yes, Paddy, please play the turn!

[Paddy]

975BC

planted some grapes

stomped some grapes

bottled the juices

drank some of the juices

550BC

wow, what a productive time

[Paddy]

save sent to Snoopy

here is the save

party time

I will post a screen shot soon - honest injun


must sleep now - honest injun

[Modo44]

Oh, look *rubs his eyes*, he's back. Hi Paddy.


About the workers again... The point of leaving some "useless" ones around is railroad. I often have enough workers to join them into cities, and still have many around. Also, the thing is, many of my cities are at size 12 and zero growth at that time. So if I would join those workers into cities, I'd have a hard time getting them back. And believe me, you need a massive number of workers for railroading. This means that I rather let them sleep in cities, until they are needed again. By that time, I should have enough income to pay them during the vacation, so it's no biggie.

[Paddy]

hahahaha well said

[Paddy]

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[Modo44]

One thing. Plains should be irrigated, not mined. You only want mines on them when cities have reached size 12, and no more workers are needed. We have an Agricultural civ here, so deserts are similar to plains in that regard - irrigate as well.

Basically, the food you get in the early game means more in the long run, than the shields do. This slowly changes into the opposite, but only later, after expansion and tile improvements are mostly done.


Paddy, and the demographics are... where?

[snoopy369]

I'll play it tonight Good work Paddy! Good to hear you're back! Head over to Huge Succession game too, Beta's being too slow

[Paddy]

and for Lord Modo - the Demographics

[Daddy-O]

re: Workers
I always road then water. I mine hills and mtns.

[snoopy369]

Don't forget to mine grassland also