Civ3 - Diplogame?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
I told you to play it as PBEM. Better slow progress than none at all. And Civ3 PBEM is alive and kicking.

I agree and thought this was the original intent

But MP is so hard with 2 people let alone a group

Gramps

[Paddy]

well if you play it with a good order you can still get the turns done

ok, maybe not as fast as you like old man

but they will get knocked over

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
well if you play it with a good order you can still get the turns done

ok, maybe not as fast as you like old man

but they will get knocked over

Paddy

I have never ever seen a game online with 5-6 peaople come off..ever with all parties meeting up, connectivity issues abound..s-l-o-w process at best

[OzzyKP]

We've had 6-7 player games get pulled off great with Civ2. Not only would they work, but they'd last for like 8-10 months of regular playing.

[1889]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
We've had 6-7 player games get pulled off great with Civ2. Not only would they work, but they'd last for like 8-10 months of regular playing.

That really amazes me, but surely that isn't the norm. Especially with players in so many different time zones.

[Ljube]

Yes, in our civ2 diplogames we had players from all over the world. It was easy to agree on a time schedule when you knew the game would flow (ten to twenty turns a 3 to 4 hour session).

The reason why we could play online is that civ2 MP is far better made in terms of connectivity, amount of data to be transferred and overall speed of play than civ3 MP.

We must face it that civ3 MP demands a broadband connection and a very powerful new computer with loads of memory in order to provide a mediocre MP performance which can't match in terms of speed even a dial-up civ2 MP game.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Ljube-ljcvetko
you knew the game would flow (ten to twenty turns a 3 to 4 hour session).

Now see this would kill me 3-4 hours and only get 10-20 turns

I would rather have my teeth cleaned then sit thats long and get so little interaction

No..I am for sure now that this would not be for me

Man..that would suck REAL BAD

Ok

Thats just my point and no one elses

Gramps "Owns own copy and has own preferences" Troll

[Harovan]

It seems like the Civ3 Apolyton University plays its next course as PBEM in diplomacy game style. Perhaps you move your effort there? You should post in this thread if you are interested. Ozzy, I reckon they also could use your excellent diplo game ruleset.

[Rasputin]

the whole point of mp is to have instantaneous diplomacy available, the heat of battle type stuff. cantbe done with pbem,...

to make this work we need people who love the game, not people who are used to SP (which basicvally is all pbem is)

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Rasputin
the whole point of mp is to have instantaneous diplomacy available, the heat of battle type stuff. cantbe done with pbem,...

to make this work we need people who love the game, not people who are used to SP (which basicvally is all pbem is)

wait hold da preesses..

why would you say "we need people whom love the game instead of those whom are used to playing sp"

I love the game and because my schedule doesnt permit me currently to sit with 6-8 people doesnt mean I dont love the game

Ok.just straightenting you out..
remember..sp..doesnt mean we are less in love with this game


Gramps

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Rasputin
to make this work we need people who love the game, not people who are used to SP (which basicvally is all pbem is)

This is the stupidest sentence I have read in years. Surely, people who play PBEM and SP are not able to love the game. Lighten up, dude.

[Rasputin]

i am talking about loving the MP game, the differences between pbem and mp usually mean the two groups of people never change to the other type.

i haqve palyed both forms and whilst pbem is good for a quick game it is nowhere near the depth of play found in mp game.

you accuse me of stupidity and yet you misread my post .

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Rasputin
i am talking about loving the MP game, the differences between pbem and mp usually mean the two groups of people never change to the other type.

i haqve palyed both forms and whilst pbem is good for a quick game it is nowhere near the depth of play found in mp game.

you accuse me of stupidity and yet you misread my post .

Sorry, but

[Harovan]

I have played real time chess, and correspondence chess. In real time chess you can make blunders, daily form matters and environmental influence is large. In chess by mail, you have days of time for just one move. Everything is well-thought, strategies and variants are calculated to the deepest. My best parties I played in correspondence chess. It's similar in MP and PBEM. MP games may go faster and more enjoyable for the moment, but PBEM games are much deeper thought.

[Rasputin]

its the element of people making real time mistakes that add to the mp feel.... with pbem you can keep reloading till you get the result you after.....