Iron Civer Tournament- Coliseum D

[Rommel2D]

...More than blind ambition
More than simple greed
More than a finish line
Must feed this burning need -
In the long run...


Game D players- Hours of freeze time remaining in blue

alexman(Netherlands) 215 alexman TA alum TOD mit TOD edu
Trip(England) withdrawn NeroTrip (at) Comcast (dot) net
smellymummy(Egypt) 336 sm at inethighway dot com
Soltz(Spain) 259 jsosiak "at" shaw.ca
richthur(Spain) kenthur at comcast.net

MC: jwala at fastmail dot fm

All games are set to:
Tiny Pangea with 70% ocean
All victory conditions except wonder
Cultural conversions and Scientific Great Leaders on
Monarch level
Climate/Temperature/Age Random
Roaming Barbarians
No culturally linked start

[Rommel2D]

I'd suggest looking over the etiquette/exploit list to make sure everyone is aware of them and agrees on the options before beginning.

In particular:
1-2a
1-3a
1-3b
should be specifically agreed to. Likewise with the possibility of combat reports. The content of these reports is up to the group to determine.

Other items that bear repeating:
Rules
11) All players expected to make simple 'sent' post in tracking thread each turn, listing year played, except when technical problems interfere.

and
etiquette/exploits
1-3 Players shall not exchange in-game information until they are represented on each other's diplomacy screen.
3-1 Players shall dismiss all pop-ups (when allowed to) at the beginning of their turn until the 'production phase' is complete.

[alexman]

Thanks Rommel2D!

I propose we adopt all optional rules and ettiquette from the list.

My address:
alexman TA alum TOD mit TOD edu

[Jon Shafer]

Agreed with alexman.

TripGoT (at) hotmail (dot) com

Ready to start when everyone else is.

[Rommel2D]

My fault for not setting this up real clearly, but disallowing ship chains could be considered the 'optional' rule. Did you mean to allow or disallow them?

[Jon Shafer]

I would personally disallow them (as I've said before), because using game mechanics to move units instantly across entire oceans is a bit too gamey for me.

[Jon Shafer]

I would also like to have a battle log required.

[alexman]

I like ship chains. If you increase individual ship movement, the attacker has an unfair advantage. But with chip chaining you get the benefits of high movement (comparable to rails) without the tactical unfairness.

But perhaps for consistency we should adopt all optional rules. What do the others say?

Battle log sounds like a good idea.

[Rommel2D]

If smellymummy and Soltz drop their $.02 here this evening, I'll get alexman the turn posthaste...

[smellymummy]

I'd really like that our game doesn't end up going to the "lawyers" over some really silly stuff. Say for example I post "turn sent" instead of "Turn 100AD sent to Soltz", which apparently would be a violation of article 11, as referenced from section 1-2a, 1-3a, where we all put our nice little initials....

with all these rules, it almost seems unavoidable, now that everyone who followed the discussion has a clear picture on how to cheat.

as for ship chains, what's the big deal? many many weeks from now, when we'll all know where everyone's major ports are, wouldn't we probably all have ironclads/destroyers/etc (bombers too?) ready to sink the transports of our enemies? railroads kind of give the same exact benefit right?

now if we aren't able to get a unanimous decision about ship chains, let's just do it by the book?

and for battle logs, that sounds like fun. not sure what they have to contain exactly, so I'll do my best to be peaceful until I read one, or else I might get in trouble

so.. how about we just agree to not cheat, to be honest in our gameplay, and drop all the exploits talks and what ifs. And then maybe rommel could send the save and but out of our game... posthaste

[Rommel2D]

Originally posted by smellymummy
so.. how about we just agree to not cheat, to be honest in our gameplay, and drop all the exploits talks and what ifs.

The main point of the discussion has been that most people cheat without realizing it because they are not aware of the flaws in the PBEM system.

Making the rules and enforcing them are two different issues. This isn't a national governmental concern- if a dispute does arise, we'll use the rules to resolve it. That's why it seems like a good idea to be aware of them in advance...

[Rommel2D]

Alexman should have the start...

I'll occasionally keep the first two posts here updated with information about your game.

Don't forget, you have the option of restarting once before you pass your first turn on.

Godspeed...

[smellymummy]

the dutch, english and spanish? vs the egyptians?

cool setting

[Jon Shafer]

England...

[Soltz]

I'm willing to go with the majority as far as the rules are concerned.

I'd like to ask forgiveness in advance if I forget to include the date in my turn posting. I'm in several games and I usually email all the turns out and post in one bunch. At that point, my short term memory for numbers starts to cut out!