Any more expansion packs?

[Egbert]

More units and more civs is NOT my idea of an expansion.

I would gladly pay for an editor as good as the Civ2 editor.

[kring]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

a long time ago it was mention by Firaxis that there would be an XP if the sale was good , and they met that number , so lets hope they keep promise , ......

panag, they didn't promise to make another XP. The comments were along the lines of seeing how PtW did; another XP would probably be Infog's call and not Firaxis.

I would enjoy seeing another XP.

Since E3 is coming up, hopefully, we will probably learn something about Firaxis and Infog's next project(s) by then.

[player1]

But XP which would add events and diplomacy editing, with several premade scenarios included would be fantastic.

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by The Templar


Let me guess, SimGolf 2

Hilarious... i fell of my chair when reading this one...

BTW. More leaderheads for existing civs would be nice (Napoleon, Cleopatra, etc.) both for game flavor and modding.

[Rasbelin]

Ehehehe.

[TheArsenal]

Originally posted by kring
panag, they didn't promise to make another XP. The comments were along the lines of seeing how PtW did; another XP would probably be Infog's call and not Firaxis.

So the question becomes: How is PtW doing?

[Spiffor]

Firaxians refused to tell us the sales of Civ3, which were probably much better than PtW's, so I don't think we'll know the sales of PtW. I fear PtW hasn't done well, at least in its first months in the US, since the reviews were harsh and the price has quickly fallen.

The trend seems to be different in Europe, as the price seems to remain stable, and there were some corrections already by the time PtW came out here.

My guess would be there has been enough faithful clients who bought PtW despite the bad reviews, so that a next expansion can be profitable if it has good reviews and a good image.

Also, if no expansion was planned at all, Firaxians would probably be allowed to say it. Maybe there are currently talks about the expansion, and nothing has been decided yet.

[Cruddy]

Hmm... the ONLY people with license to sell expansion packs for Civ3 are Infogrames, right? Anyone else gets sued.

So this idea of secrecy to prevent spoiler products to quash Civ3 expansions can't be right.

Here's my theory; given the huge investment both Firaxis and Infogrames put in before a single copy was sold, I would say they're sitting on a few bits and bobs that they can release if they need to make a few bucks to cover a quarterly deficit.

HOWEVER, they need to see if it's commercially viable - CIV3 sold right through its production run and new copies were produced to meet demand.

PTW, on the other hand, was heavily discounted quickly - at least in the US.

Until there's a demand, no release. So you can either.

1) Bombard Infogrames with e-mail demanding expansions - which you won't get unless PTW sells.

OR

2) Bombard Firaxis with congratulations and fervent hope that their next games are at least as good as Civ3.

Personally, I'd go for option 2.

[WarpStorm]

From all I've heard PTW met its sales expectations (roughly a quarter of Civ3's sales). Jeff Morris said that it did as well as was expected in the last chat.

[alva]

Which says alot about XP potential considering it has some although very minor issues when released.
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[Tiberius]

I wonder though what could be included in a new XP to sell. Multiplayer was the big selling force behing PtW (or at least was supposed to be) but they can't include it again Or they could, advertising that this time will work

I know I wouldn't buy another exp. for some new civs and a scenario editor. However if they include some features from their "most wanted wish list" , then hmm, I'd interested.

[Master Zen]

well considering how Civ3 was a complete piece of garbage when it came out I was actually pleased to find PTW a very decent game for SP. MP however, which was the major selling point was a sham, I hope they don't make the same mistake with XP2.

What I fear is that this perhaps might set a precedent, that it's ok to release a crappy product which should have been, could have been almost perfect the first time around, and only decide to perfect it 2 years later. As it stands even PTW left us wanting, the editor was still incomplete, lots of new units but nowhere to use them... etc. etc. etc. I hope the future of computer gaming isn't like this, I long for the days when games were released right. Did anyone have problems with Civ1 or Civ2??? I don't think so.

Anyways, let'em release a new XP, if it's decent enough, who knows, I might buy it. If not, there are always, "alternative" ways of getting it

[Alex]

Zen, the problem is that what you fear might set a precedent is actually common practice nowadays. Games are being released without some funcionalities that will only be included in an expansion pack. They have to leave something out of the game in order to boost the sales of the XPs.

It wouldn't be hard to sell an expansion, anyway, because most fans of a particular game are always willing to pay for more of the same. I imagine that a new Civ3 expansion could add a good scenario editor plus some fantasy scenarios, just like "Fantastic Worlds" did.

[alva]

Did anyone have problems with Civ1 or Civ2??? I don't think so.

There weren't any +30.000 member forum either of course to point out all the mistakes(not to mention fewer set-ups)
I doubt people would even have noticed 10% of the (game)bugs in CIV/ptw.

(not taking about the MP part here though.)
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IMO they would do better to drop any possible future XP's and concentrate on a well manufatured CIV4,
Any non perfect XP they release is bound to get the same, if not harsher critisism and will attract more negative attention then positive (even if it's a good one objectively), not to mention the reputation hit
Cut your losses and start over...

[Panag]

Originally posted by Cruddy
Hmm... the ONLY people with license to sell expansion packs for Civ3 are Infogrames, right? Anyone else gets sued.

So this idea of secrecy to prevent spoiler products to quash Civ3 expansions can't be right.

Here's my theory; given the huge investment both Firaxis and Infogrames put in before a single copy was sold, I would say they're sitting on a few bits and bobs that they can release if they need to make a few bucks to cover a quarterly deficit.

HOWEVER, they need to see if it's commercially viable - CIV3 sold right through its production run and new copies were produced to meet demand.

PTW, on the other hand, was heavily discounted quickly - at least in the US.

Until there's a demand, no release. So you can either.

1) Bombard Infogrames with e-mail demanding expansions - which you won't get unless PTW sells.

OR

2) Bombard Firaxis with congratulations and fervent hope that their next games are at least as good as Civ3.

Personally, I'd go for option 2.

hi ,

, they could go to court when push comes to shove , ......

they could argue that infogrames does not keep its end when it comes to for example customer support , .....

anyway , at least one XP should be on our way




have a nice day