didnt you all really want SMAC on earth?

[MegloManiac]

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by BloodyTampon

Yeah. I hate it when they point out in their oh-so-subtle-way that SMAC is a superior game to Civ3 in every sence of the word "superior". It really bothers me.

[Master Zen]

It's not superior. It's just that some things could've been taken from it and made Civ3 even better.

[TheStinger]

I always wondered why someone didn't mod smac to change all the sci fi terms to be like civ. How the native life forms would be daelt with would be interesting but could habe been worked around

[Master Zen]

they could be like the worms from the movie Tremors...

[TheStinger]

or just make em barbarians

[spartak]

YES!

[Major Guz]

The implementation of the units can be done like in "War Inc." a somewhat older game, but i LOVED the unit design box.

And if the unit design is to much micromanagement (hell, I Love to micromanage unit design), you could make some auto-design (but more intelligent than SMAC, because after some games I turned it off because its annoying useless units).

OTOH, having fixed units (sorry I have to put it this way guys) is somewhat more strategic. I mean walking around with a 10-8-1 unit which has both good offensive and defensive capabilities is less strategic than having the choice of an attacker (high attack-low defense) or a defender (low offense-high defense).

So for units, I think it is a personal choice which model suits you best.
So is the rest of the things I loved to see implemented in CIV (like allies being able to come to each others bases etc and the ability to discuss war plans).

However, I like the trade system in CIV in that way you can barter (I want XX gold for this tech). In smac you could not ask for a specific amount of money, it was more like a "take it or leave it" offer, I hated that.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the fact that you could not directly declare war to an enemy in SMAC really annoyed me, I think that is the thing I hated most.

[Traelin]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
Do I want SMAC on Earth? No, not really. The one thing from SMAC that could have been used in Civ3 to good effect is the wealth of diplomatic options.

Yeah Warp, I agree here. If the best features of SMAC were implemented in Civ3, it'd be ridiculously good. Planetary Council/diplomacy, custom governments, and unit workshop would have been cool. If you think about it, custom governments could have still followed historical patterns if they were limited to certain combinations. But the UN should have DEFINITELY functioned like the PC.

Either way I'm still happy with Civ3, except for the diplomacy. All in all it's a great game.

[Ubergeek]

When I first got Civ 3, I admit I was disappointed that a lot of the features I adored from SMAC (especially unit design and custom governments) were missing. But as I got used to the design, each of those objections was mollified. Those things made perfect sense in SMAC, but they would have felt out of place in a Civ setting. The UUs went a long way toward giving each civ a unique feel to its units, and the governments are all different enough that each one is useful in its own time and place.

At this point, the only feature I really miss from SMAC is being able to stop wars between other factions -- nothing's more irritating than watching your only two allies clobbering the crap out of each other while the other 13 civs gang up on you.

[pedrojedi]

I don't miss SMAC that much. The 3D terrain was annoying. The unit creation center was boring. The government, irritating. And the AI... I hate cities being founded just outside my backdoors. I need some breathing room. But, as someone says, that's just me.

The diplomacy was cool, and some ideas for Future Tech are good enough to be put in a extended game. BUt, all in all, I think that some inclusions from CtP would be more fun than some of SMAC.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Master Zen
It's not superior.

Yes, it is

SMAC is to Civ3 as Russia is to America. America may seem pretty on the outside, but once you get right down into it....Russia is always a superior country

[Manya]

i feel some nationalism in that post Tassadar

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Manya
i feel some nationalism in that post Tassadar

Only a little bit

[CivPatriot]

I think that most of the ideas from SMAC whould have been out of place, execpt for the Plantary Government(which is how the UN in CIV3 should have worked), the diplomatic system, and the ability to do blind reserach(much more realistic and fun). Basically the science and diplomatic system. Of course had i known they were going to screw with the Combat system over, i wish they whould have went with the SMAC way, but oh well.

Thankfully they avoided the horrific color scheme of SMAC, one thing i do not want on Earth.