"Civilization III is a Role Playing Game"

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Master Zen




Einstein once said that science brought us closer to God. Most Christians I know always quote this believing that ultimately science will bow down to the bible. I think Einstein's intent was that science would bring us closer to true knowledge, the REAL god.

Einstein said that in the debate about an absolute universe... The basis for his famous "God does not play dice" quote. Sadly, Einstein was wrong. God.. or another more rational force plays dice all the time: evidenced by the manifestation of Quantum Mechanic effects and Quantum Field effects. For the most simplistic demonstratable effect, see the Casimir effect experiment.

"What is the Casimir effect?" From Usenet physics FAQ

The Casimir effect is a small attractive force which acts between two close parallel uncharged conducting plates, It is due to quantum vacuum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field.

The effect was predicted by the Dutch physicist Hendrick Casimir in 1948, According to the quantum theory, the vacuum contains virtual particles which are in a continuous state of fluctuation (see physics FAQ article on virtual particles), Casimir realised that between two plates, only those virtual photons whose wavelengths fit a whole number of times into the gap should be counted when calculating the vacuum energy, The energy density decreases as the plates are moved closer which implies there is a small force drawing them together.

[Arrian]

However, it promotes the message that everyone can be a god, which rejects the truth of the one true God; this, in my eyes, is far worse than violence.

That's ****ing hilarious! I love it! Fundies crack me up (not a blanket broadside versus Christians or religious people in general, btw).

-Arrian

[MrBaggins]

And its not that they are... just what they say...

[Cyclotron]

I loved this one, on Neverwinter Nights (emphasis added):

If this game had less violence and if the only magic you used was to heal people, then this game would be acceptable.

If the only magic was to heal people, NWN would be a crappy game.

Wait a minute, why is healing magic any less occult than a fireball? Because Jesus healed? Wouldn't that be worse, because you are pretending to be Jesus or something?

[Cyclotron]

Wait a minute:

90-100% (A) These games are free of virtually all violence, language, sexual, and occult content or material. They also contain Biblical material and/or educational material.
Example: Civilization III

Did I miss something? Where is the "biblical material" in Civ3?

[Pap1723]

This is just hysterical!

Pap

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by cyclotron7
Wait a minute:



Did I miss something? Where is the "biblical material" in Civ3?

CIV3 rewrites the bible...

[Chemical Ollie]

Rock n roll

Now I only have to write 171 spams to get a custom avatar...

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre
CIV3 rewrites the bible...

No, they are indicating that "grade A" games have some kind of (I guess positive) biblical material...

[Master Zen]

The "truth" of the ONE true god?

I'd like to see the Muslims and Hindus accept that. Face it, there is no absolute truth when the majority of the world's population, no matter what religion you are, think's you are wrong.

But then again, it's human nature to invent things that they don't understand. (that's why in the beginning there were gods of thunder, rain, fertility, bla bla bla). As science slowly began explaining things these gods were slowly discarded. But people still can't understand themselves, and probably never will, and that's perhaps the only logical reason to have faith in a deity, and not in themselves.

And BTW, I'm not an atheist. Saying you are an atheist is the same as saying you believe. There is no 100% evidence that god doesn't exist either. So frankly, this is a question that will only be answered when you're dead, until then, a simple "I don't know" suffices. Be brave, be smart, accept that man has yet to find the answers. But don't be foolish to invent them.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by cyclotron7
Wait a minute:



Did I miss something? Where is the "biblical material" in Civ3?

Maybe they keep some bibles stashed inside the Cathedrals...

[Master Zen]

BTW...

too bad they took out Fundamentalism in Civ3, if not they surely would have said something about it, not realizing they are Fundies themselves!

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Master Zen
The "truth" of the ONE true god?

I'd like to see the Muslims and Hindus accept that.

Uh, they do. There is only one true God in Islam.

You're right about Hindus, though.

[Gunnar Thor]

Originally posted by Master Zen And BTW, I'm not an atheist. Saying you are an atheist is the same as saying you believe. There is no 100% evidence that god doesn't exist either. So frankly, this is a question that will only be answered when you're dead, until then, a simple "I don't know" suffices. Be brave, be smart, accept that man has yet to find the answers. But don't be foolish to invent them.

How come I can't invent my own answer when that's what mankind has been doing for thousands of years vith religion?

I believe that no god exists. If I believe this, am I then not an atheist? Isn't that the same as saying that if you believe in god you're not a believer?

And no man has ever been satisfied with "I don't know". We all need to believe something, either that there is a god(s) or spirits that guide us from above, or that there is no such thing as a god and the answers lie elsewhere, be it in science or whatever you can come up with.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Gunnar Thor
How come I can't invent my own answer when that's what mankind has been doing for thousands of years vith religion?

You definitely can! All I'm saying is that we're fooling each other by just inventing things we don't know.

And no man has ever been satisfied with "I don't know". We all need to believe something, either that there is a god(s) or spirits that guide us from above, or that there is no such thing as a god and the answers lie elsewhere, be it in science or whatever you can come up with.

Unfortunately mankind has always invented things he doesn't know. And used that "knowledge" to exert power over other people.



I'm 99.99% convinced that god doesn't exist.

BTW, this has really turned into an OT thread...