Is the Carrier too weak on defense?

[Ming]

Master Zen seconding the motion that somebody should get a PCR for spamming...



Something about the pot calling the kettle black...

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Ming
Master Zen seconding the motion that somebody should get a PCR for spamming...



Something about the pot calling the kettle black...

Please show me the thread where I've hogged 2 entire pages with posts.

And for the record, a high post count does not equate to spamming util you actually take into account the context of each post. I didn't get all these nice positions in the demo games (see my sig) by spamming my way into them, and if you don't believe me, ask any demogamer to see what he thinks of my contribution.

[Spiffor]

MZ is right. The period where I got most of my postcount was the one when I was the most productive in the DGs.

[Ming]

MZ... I just look at your posts in the communtiy forum, and only one thing comes to mind...

SPAM

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Ming
MZ... I just look at your posts in the communtiy forum, and only one thing comes to mind...

SPAM

How many posts in the community forum, 20-30 in total out of my almost 2,500?? Thats about 1%. I'm not saying I haven't spammed, of course not, everyone has, I'm no less guilty than the average Apolytonian, but please Ming, don't compare those with with the bulkload of my posts which have been in the demo games/strat forum/and general sites.

It's quite obvious I'm not one in your buddy list, but I find it highly biased that you judge me just by a few posts and completely ignore all the other ones. Again, before you start critizising my posting habits, I dare you to ask what other people think of them, especially the demogaming community.

Finally, again, high post count does not equate to spamming no matter how you look at it. In fact, you should be grateful that out of every hour spent on the net, half of it is spent here. You know why? BECAUSE I LOVE THIS SITE.

Nuff said.

[Ming]

Zen... you never met a thread you didn't like

Now get back on topic. Stop accusing somebody of spamming.

I see you got insulted and offended when I accused you of it... How do you think Panag feels with your comments...

If you have a complaint about a poster, bring it up in PRIVATE to a mod. NOT in a thread.

Because if you continue it here, you will see a PCR and a restriction.

YOU GOT THAT.

[ChrisiusMaximus]

I have to say that as a poster who has just been reading this from the sidelines and not commenting on this thread I have found the posts by Panag very informative and interesting. I fail to see why anyone should get uppitty over them and can only suppose its easier to criticise than to search for and compile evidence to corroborate ones own argument, shame though.

[Mad Bomber]

CM and Panag:

In general I'm not opposed to someone providing information that is of some help to the related topic. However, when the information becomes so volumous that it leads to information overload then it no longer helps the posters and crosses the line of Spamming IMO. Most of what Panag posted was helpful to posters. but the amount of it was simply too much.... Understand I am not a moderator and this is just my opinion, take it for what it is worth.

I will not take up any further space on this thread in regards to Spamming, however when one provides info can you Please keep it concise and short (three pages on the sea sparrow and three different listings of US aircraft carriers are too much)

[Jaybe]

Brief descriptions and web links would be an improvement.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber
CM and Panag:

In general I'm not opposed to someone providing information that is of some help to the related topic. However, when the information becomes so volumous that it leads to information overload then it no longer helps the posters and crosses the line of Spamming IMO. Most of what Panag posted was helpful to posters. but the amount of it was simply too much.... Understand I am not a moderator and this is just my opinion, take it for what it is worth.

I will not take up any further space on this thread in regards to Spamming, however when one provides info can you Please keep it concise and short (three pages on the sea sparrow and three different listings of US aircraft carriers are too much)

hi ,

huh , after going painstakenly shiffting true a couple gigabyte's in order to post the shortest , without a lot of technical details et all the above was the result , ......

if you say a you must say b , you just can post brazil has two carriers , .....

link , well , sorry but i see no need to post a link from panags server , .... two ; the reasons are explained above , .....

as of now only two people have complained , ages after the last post , ....

while 8 people have requested more info of site then , .....

as of today 14 have , .... each and everyone saying the info was good and usefull , ..... 3 people asked after the above incident why not more was posted , ......

one can only wonder , ......

have a nice day


edit > and can we now get back to topic ? thanks in advance

[Qilue]

I'd like to add my voice to the chorus that thinks there should be both conventional and nuclear carriers.

As to a carrier's def (assuming the carrier unit represents a conventional ww2 era carrier).

US and Japanese had similiar construction, specifically the wooden flight deck. British were constructed differently having an armoured flight deck due to the closer battle confines of the North Atlantic and the Mediteranian. This resulted in the British losing fewer carriers to kamikazi attacks than the US. But I digress.

Many here seem to be basing their estimates of a carrier's defence while assuming a standard compliment of aircraft. Without aircraft, a carrier's combat capability is very limited and as one poster described, are little more than a target for other warships like cruisers and battleships.

Carrier without aircraft vs aegis cruiser?
Carrier with aircraft vs aegic cruiser?

[MattH]

I really liked the CIV II method that a carrier had to be surrounded by escorts for protection. That said, I like the idea of aircraft interdicting nearby ships before they can attack the carrier. boosting the defense to 32 or so seems acceptable.