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  • #16
    To make the grade as a Civlization, a culture must have made a lasting impression on the world.

    Speaking as a Kiwi currently living in Australia, neither of these two countries is worthy of this title. Incas? Yeah, I would support them as a civ.

    But can't you, with the PtW editor, make your own civs with your own attributes? I know you can't add UUs (THAT would be cool...), but surely if you want something changed you can change it.
    Consul.

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    • #18
      So actually, when you remembered Indians and Mongols, the list in OP looks very much same as we already have in civ3+ptw. Do remember though, that Iroquois, while lasting only 200 years as civ, are there representing more or less all native North Americans. There's also more philosophical side, since Iroquois are religious expansionists, and they formed a confederation consisting multiple small nations that did not fall until american's independency. This is unlike majority of civs which are generally empires. Because of this iroquois will have communism as preferred govt type, too.

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      • #19
        My next 7 civs.

        The 7 I would add next would be:

        Incas, Scots, Ethiopians, Portugese, Dutch, Israel, Khmers.

        I've already added the first three to my mod, using leaderheads available at casperfusion. I'm planning on using the Polynesian leaderhead for the Khmers, and the Fidel leaderhead for the Portugese.

        Some other tweaks in attributes, aggression, etc. would be necessary. At first I thought about modding bombardment because of the Hwacha, but now I'm thinking of replacing it with the Turtle Boat unit, thus solving the lethal bombardment question.

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        • #20
          Those would be my picks for the new civs as well. Never heard of the Khmers, though. A couple of those are the ones they ought to have added in PTW. It should have been more than five civs.
          Whew! I'm back and ready to start writing again.
          Coming soon: Pax America Redux (Including concepts/civs from Conquests)

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          • #21
            Originally posted by panag
            hi ,

            Israel should be on that list

            have a nice day
            Yes. They influenced history way more than the Polynesians.

            My civs woud be:
            Inca
            Isreal
            Ethiopia
            Maybe the Dutch
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            • #22
              So actually, when you remembered Indians and Mongols, the list in OP looks very much same as we already have in civ3+ptw. Do remember though, that Iroquois, while lasting only 200 years as civ, are there representing more or less all native North Americans. There's also more philosophical side, since Iroquois are religious expansionists, and they formed a confederation consisting multiple small nations that did not fall until american's independency. This is unlike majority of civs which are generally empires. Because of this iroquois will have communism as preferred govt type, too.
              I agree with you on the philosophical side and of iroquis representing all north american tribes but i'm not really sure the NA tribes were that important to be considered civs when there were more interesting civs to add.
              So, i've been reading your posts and I think we should add this civs to the list:
              -Indians
              -Thai or Khmer
              -Israel
              Not pretty sure if this one deserve to go in:
              -Australia or Canada
              -Iroquis
              -Ethiopians
              I don't think mongols are that important. They were just a bunch of barbarians that didn't even built cities.

              Also Vatican should be added. We all know that the pope is just waiting for the chance to send his armies and conquer the world.
              -El patriotismo no es más que egoísmo en masa.
              -Al que me diga asesino, lo mato.
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              • #23
                Re: The Perfect Civ List

                Originally posted by South killer
                -Argentina or Mexico(or both-- we need a spanish-speaking latinamerican civ)
                pffft.. Argentina? If you want a latinamerican civ you better think of Chile. Yes I'm patriotic but that's not all, we have a better history background than Argentina.

                I belive that the Incas are in order to be the South American Civ in the game.
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                • #24
                  Just out of curriosity, what Civ Traits would the Canadians have, eh?
                  "...Every Right implies a certain Responsibility; Every Opportunity, an Obligation; Every Possession, a Duty." --J.D. Rockerfeller, Jr.

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                  • #25
                    Re: The Perfect Civ List

                    Originally posted by South killer
                    i think the civs playable on civ 3 are very bad chosen (like the iroquis ).
                    This from somebody who considers Brazil more important than India?
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                    • #26
                      This from somebody who considers Brazil more important than India?
                      HEEEYYYY!!!!
                      Heh, well, it's true. Our country have 500 years of history, of which only about 250 were really interesting, even though our history had important repercusions to the world (lots of our gold still lie somewhere in England, and they got it in really good time).

                      Still, I'd like to see Brasil as a Civ. I think it would be something like Religious & Soccer, I mean, Commercial.

                      Just out of curriosity, what Civ Traits would the Canadians have, eh?
                      I think it would be Ultracold & LotsofTundra.
                      Nah, I don't know it very well, just from documentaries and stuff, but just for what I hear and see, I think i t could be Expansionist & Commercial/Scientific

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                      • #27
                        Originally posted by pedrojedi
                        Religious & Soccer
                        nice!!! I obviously would play with Brazil if you got it
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                        • #28
                          Canada:

                          Religious: went from Monarcy to Democracy(ok socalism) without a hitch.

                          Scientific: high education level, and hey we made the Canadarm on the space shuttle.

                          UU: mountie (gives double effect when garrisoned for happines otherwise usless in combat) early Industrial Age

                          or peacekeeper (colourless modern unit with high defence and like 1 or 0 attack)

                          Basically a builder civ, cause we ain't expansionist or militaristic, and well can socalists be commercial? oh yeah Its too damn cold to be industrious (right now anyway).

                          Plus someone has dome advisor heads you know science guy, military guy with Bob and Doug Mckenzie

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                          • #29
                            Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                            The United States and Canada are extensions of English culture with significant chunks of French and German cultures mixed in for good measure. Mexico et al are extensions of Spanish culture.

                            Remove them or leave them out.
                            Mexico is not an extension of spanish culture even if some ignorant USians call everybody who speaks spanish "spanish". Mexico is a blend of spanish and indian cultures and thus constitues an entirely different civilization in real life.

                            But since the Aztecs are included, I see no reason to have Mexico. Just mod the name in the editor.
                            A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                            • #30
                              I would include Incas (industrious, religious) and Brazil (scientific, commerical) for the Americas.

                              There could also be a Latinamerican civ with Simon Bolivar as its leader. I would loooove to play with that one!

                              For the ROW, African civs are missing, how bout the Mali civ? They had a pretty big empire once. Ethiopians with Haile Selaisse would be another option.

                              Austria-Hungary is missing. So are the Suedes and the Thais and the Polynesians.
                              A true ally stabs you in the front.

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