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  • Uniqueness of Civs? (Idea for addon/Civ4)

    It has always bothered me, with Civ3, that all Civs uniqueness are pre-set.

    What if we say: All Civs starts alike, but within short time they gain their uniqueness depending on how they play the game. We could say that after 3000 years (for first trait) and 4000 years (for second trait), the Civ traits have been found. Each Civ can still only have 2 traits, and they could be calculated like this:

    Religious: By building lots of temples (Depending on the size of the civ), you get a higher chance to be a religious civ

    Commercial: You get a higher chance to be a commercial civ, if you: 1) explore the map 2) meet new civs 3) Trades with the other civs

    Militarism: You get a higher chance to get this trait, if you start out early building a strong military

    Scientific: The more you put into science, the greater the chance are to be a scintific Civ (=The more money you spend, the more libraries you build... depending on Civ size)

    Expansionist: If you build lots of Settlers/worker or explore the map, the chance to be an expansionist civ is greater

    Industrious: By building lots of city improvements and terrain improvements, you get a greater chance to get this trait


    Of course this requires the traits to be changed a bit, since e.g. Expansionist civs doesn't get much of the trait, if they don't have the trait before 1000 BC, but maybe the settlers could get much cheaper, or the settlers builds size 2 cities (but don't give 2 citicens to a city when joining... they also only require 1 population)...



    Other things that could be changed depending on how you play:

    If you build tons of cavalery, you'll have a higher chance to get a new cavalery type unit (+ all existing cavaleries will be upgraded at no cost). The new type cavalery could then have a bonus in attack (of 2)...
    Or if you e.g. don't build lots of one type unit, but maybe build lots of offensive type units (or defensive), then all your offensive units gets a +1 offensive (or if defensive, you get a +1 defense, for all defensive units)

    Would also be nice (I think) to have certain wonders, that requires certain terrain, e.g. the Pyramids should require dessert near the city...


    I know that the numbers should be changed, but this was just meant to give an idea... What do you others think about it?
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  • #2
    exactly what was brought up yesterday
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    • #3
      Sorry, I did try to go through the pages, but couldn't find anything about that...
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      • #4
        Could you please point me to that thread?
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        • #5
          ahh.. can't find it... you got it down even to the cavalry example, though.
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          • #6
            Hmmm... nice coincidence
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            • #7
              the thread entitled "Civ Specific Wonders"

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              • #8
                I also made one or two threads about it and someone made, like a month ago maximum, something quite complete about it. it was about adaptative civs that would have many factors instead of just "Commercial" and "insdustrious". Was more like many factors with every civs placed somewhere on it (more like MOO). like industry: awful, good, very good... something like that... oh well, don't remember alot.

                I do agree with you.
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                • #9
                  hmmm... a rating system would be a good idea instead of just two "bonuses"
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                  • #10
                    Hmmm.. with so many threads about, it seems like many people want it
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                    • #11
                      many people do want it. although, many people like it this way. so, somebody's unhappy no matter what.
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                      • #12
                        Well... can't make everybody happy...

                        But what do you mean with a rating system?
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                        • #13
                          i think what it means, is like this:
                          everyone has industrial, commercial, military "traits"

                          if you use one a lot, you become good at it, for example, the Aztecs may have a "Very good" or "5/5" rating for military but "Very Poor" or "1/5" rating in science, if that makes sense.
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                          • #14
                            Ok, that sounds like a better idea
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                            • #15
                              much better, IMO, than just a civ getting a 50% reduction on certain buildings and other stuff.
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