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  • Military service and famly size

    what do these mesure and how do you make them go up?

    I think that Military service has somthing to do with the size of the military vs. the total pop.

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    Hmm good question
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    • #3


      Military service is 10*(total population points)/(total military units), in years.

      Family size is (total excess food)/(2*#of cities), minimum of 1.

      Edit: It's possible, BTW, to have a military service figure larger than the Life Expectancy figure, actually (try a Mass Regicide game).
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      • #4
        "Military Service" is kind of a misnomer, then. They're trying to represent something like military efficiency. I.e. you survived the game without spending too much on military.

        I had assumed the opposite, that military service increased with the size of your military. i.e., a large military increases the length of time an average citizen would serve.

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        • #5
          Re: Military service and famly size

          Originally posted by Big Fish
          what do these mesure and how do you make them go up?

          I think that Military service has somthing to do with the size of the military vs. the total pop.
          Don't even bother taking those stats seriously. Ever since Civ I, those types of analysis have only been around to add some flavour. They mean absolutely nothing in terms of the overall game.

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          • #6
            Re: Re: Military service and famly size

            Originally posted by Willem


            Don't even bother taking those stats seriously. Ever since Civ I, those types of analysis have only been around to add some flavour. They mean absolutely nothing in terms of the overall game.
            which is sad. useful stats are fun.

            look @ the civ3 demo game, Reddawg had population charts, and a "World Factbook Entry" was maintained. it was really fun.
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            • #7
              The demographics screen truly sucks. We need to be able to see at least the rankings for all nations. And I would say after building an embassy we should see the exact statistics for that nation.

              Military service could be better represented as soldiers as a percent of pop, or military spending as a percent of GDP.

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              • #8
                I use the screen quite a bit, since it gives me an idea of where my spending and world standing is compared to rest of the civs. I always try to keep my productivity, literacy, and manufacturing at #1. If those stats are not, then I am usually in some kind of trouble that needs to be addressed a.s.a.p.
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                • #9
                  wow, i dont think i have EVER had military service above 1 year (aside from the first 2000 years or so), even if i am playing to conquer.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Re: Military service and famly size

                    Originally posted by Willem


                    Don't even bother taking those stats seriously. Ever since Civ I, those types of analysis have only been around to add some flavour. They mean absolutely nothing in terms of the overall game.
                    You're right, only the Population Stat and the Empire Size Stat are true. That's too bad for me, 'cause I am such a guy who truly love such statistics and such guy who want to know everything about his own empire.
                    Yours,

                    LionQ.

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                    • #11
                      you tellin me that he literacy, diesease and all those other stats are complete b.s.?

                      shesh I use them during the game for a lot of my buiding plans.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lord_Davinator
                        you tellin me that he literacy, diesease and all those other stats are complete b.s.?

                        shesh I use them during the game for a lot of my buiding plans.
                        I haven't looked at those figures for 10 years at least, not since Civ I anyway. They make absolutely no difference in my overall game. At least none that I can see.

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                        • #13
                          literacy? productivity? civ3?
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                          • #14
                            F10...or was it F11!

                            I look at four figures: land/population/productivity/annual income...from these numbers I recognize what I have to work at. If I'm first in two of them...I'll win for sure
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                            • #15
                              Disease and Literacy Stat

                              Originally posted by Lord_Davinator
                              you tellin me that he literacy, diesease and all those other stats are complete b.s.?

                              shesh I use them during the game for a lot of my buiding plans.
                              Well, the Disease Stat might be right sometimes, but the LiteracyStat is nonsens.
                              Yours,

                              LionQ.

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