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  • #76
    I only play PBEM games...
    This space is empty... or is it?

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    • #77
      I've played Civ III since it first came out. And for most of that time I was addicted. Despite its obvious shortcomings, there was too much about it that I just loved.

      But my interest in Civ III burned out over many months as I played through many other games. Now, I just have no interest left at this time.

      I wouldn't say I'm sick of Civ III, or that it has been played to death and I'll never play it again. But it just doesn't appeal to me right now, and I don't see myself playing it again any time soon, with or without mods.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Sir Ralph
        What problem are volcanoes, other than that they can seriously screw you early on?
        Jesse Smith confirmed that the introduction of volcanoes somehow caused the resource dsitribution problem.
        The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

        Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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        • #79
          How inconvenient. I like the addition of volcanos...and I even like the side benefit of resource scarcity... althought it's a bit *too* scarce in some games.
          Haven't been here for ages....

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          • #80
            I actually sort of like the resource scarcity as well.

            I think the distribution can be kept the same but the instances can be increased.

            I don't think its a problem that we can play to industrial and find out we don't have rubber. I mean, what's the point of having resources at all if all it takes is massive rexing and biting off territory from your neighbours to have everything you'll ever need.

            strategic resource scarcity makes the game more interesting. I recently just got done playing an Emperor level game where i had no rubber, despite having a large chunk of the landmass and the potential to gain more by attacking my weaker neighbours. No one had them. All the sources were controled by the AI superpower, with only one open source on the tip of a landmass. I had take the city from another AI and turn it into a virtual fortress to make sure if the superpower got ticked off, i can hold it long enough to move survive. Essentially, I had to figure out how to play and to continue. And to play creatively and have fun, which I thought was part of the challenge and fun of Civ. I'd rather play a game like that and squeak by or even lose on emperor level than bragging about how I won in Sid with my 200 arty offensive strategy, which (no offense intended) is one of the most tedious things anyone can do to win a game. Not to mention the anal rententive side of of super micromanagement has never suited my tastes as gamer... but i'm going off topic here.

            I've also had bad early starts with no Iron. I ended up having to trade for it for nearly the entire game. I lost the game, because I also happened to have started out on a large Island in a pangea game. but it was a heck of a lot more fun than a boring standard pagea start of rexing, rexing, steal resources, rex rex rex. mass troops. go to war. mass troops. got to war. etc. Playing from behind was a great experience.

            In anycase, back to my emperor game. I got screwed because despite having a monopoly on silks there were only 3 instances of silks in the entire map. So I was disadvantaged by not being able to trade with more than 2 civs at a time. Had there been 5 instances of silk for an 8 civ standard map, it would be great.

            In summary, resource distribution OK. instances can go up a bit. A bug this may be, but I really thing C3C is better with it than without. I revisited my last PTW game and was appaled by how many resources I controlled, despite only controlling about 25% of the landmass. I had so many in fact, they had started to stack on the resource screen.

            No, resource scarcity definately is better.
            Last edited by dexters; March 1, 2004, 22:47.
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            • #81
              I can honestly say that the Civ series not only has held my interest the longest than any other game(s), even with its shortcomings, but also (after Civ3) its tweaked my interest in many aspects of gaming, like the fact that one can edit the game, the rules,and create their own terrain graphics, units and unit animations, its great! After seeing so much independant talent out there (Sn00py,Womack and many many others) It has inspiredme of perhaps making a career change into the feild of computer graphics art and animations. (Just Imagine People Actually Get Paid to Make/Play Games Like Sids Civs!!!)
              Last edited by darkprophet; March 12, 2004, 14:16.

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              • #82
                lol. i went back and read the first post and realized how off topic this whole thing has gotten.

                Apologies for my big long rant.

                RE: my Civ addiction. It usually goes in cycles. 1 to 2 months of intense play followed by 3 months or rest then back again.
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                • #83
                  It was a good post, dexters.

                  I'm currently very addicted. I'm playing a mod with large numbers of civs on tiny map.

                  I'm going to try in the inverse after this game finishes. 31 civs on huge map. I know, I know....get a few magazine subscriptions for between turns....

                  I'm addicted.
                  Haven't been here for ages....

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                  • #84
                    If you play on a pangea the strain will not be as big on your system. less water tiles to calculate trade routes.
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                    • #85
                      Post the map, lots of people seem to be asking for one like that.
                      You are very courageous.

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                      • #86
                        Do you feel upset or angry when something keeps you from playing Civ3? Do you dream about playing Civ3 while you should be doing other things? If you answered 'yes' to either question then you are a Civ3 addict..

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                        • #87
                          Oh, damn. Time to see a shrink
                          So if you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy and some taste
                          Use all your well-learned politesse, or I'll lay your soul to waste

                          Re-Organisation of remaining C3C PBEMS

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by bfg9000
                            Do you feel upset or angry when something keeps you from playing Civ3? Do you dream about playing Civ3 while you should be doing other things? If you answered 'yes' to either question then you are a Civ3 addict..
                            Scared me with this one, until I realized she upsets me no matter what game I am playing.

                            The nerve, wanting me to listen to her while I am busy.

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                            • #89
                              Oh, damn. Time to see a shrink
                              yeah, me too. But for a 15 year old?
                              I need to see one for other reasons any way...
                              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                                We have 2004 now, you know.
                                You mean, Unreal Tournament 2004??? March 16th......

                                Seriously now, the poll would have been great if we had an option like '' I play it to death every year during 9 months, and I take a 3-4 months break.'' Exactly what I made in 2002 and 2003, and now that I've passed most of the C3C scenarios twice, and 7-8 full huge epic games, playing it every day since last october, I'm on the verge of another break.........for much less civing games. I'll be back.
                                The art of mastering:"la Maîtrise des caprices du subconscient avant tout".

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