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I am not sure I like that as an analogy. I would maybe accept it if you refered to the Pinto. There they knew they had an issue and chose to let it go into sales anyway. Here we have some things that were not done they way they should have been or could have been, but deliberate attempt to put out a broken product. Yes, some may claim it was, but they can not know it unless they were in on the design. We know about the Pinto as the dcuments were presented in court. GM presumetly had something that needed correction and they did so. I say presume as sometimes the recall is really just polictical and insubstancial, such as an old Camaro I had need a correction to a bukle in the back seat. The car was on the streets for 10 years before that was decided. Anyway, Honda has not managed to avoid recalls. I had an Acura that was a dream, I got a recall notice for it. The point is people still bought fords after the Pinto. I was one who said I would not, but here I am with a Mustang convertible and I even bough an escort that same day for my ex. People have short memories.
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Hey, I admit some of the fixes were "recall" in nature... you expect something different in software? Tell Bill G.
Incremental improvements and enhancements based on community feedback represent a significant change in the development process.
Couple a years back (10?), I was in a position to give MS and Lotus direct input on feature development for Excel and 1-2-3... very cool, except it was a couple years before anything I commented on showed up, by which time of course I had moved on to entirely different issues.
Firaxis is pretty cool in my book.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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I know that some of the feedback I've given them was listened to. This puts them near the top of the heap in my book.Seemingly Benign
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i think they did a good job as well.
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Originally posted by WarpStorm
I know that some of the feedback I've given them was listened to.
A master of understatement.
Referencing a traditional analogy above, that's like the head of design for GM saying, "Hey, did you see the custom paint job that one guy down in San Diego did? We're gonna offer that as a standard option, starting in a couple months."The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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I think Firaxis' actions speak louder than words.
Many patches.
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About a month ago I made a thread about it.
Is it allowed to praise Firaxis?
And sure it is the best.Last edited by georges bonbon; October 28, 2002, 06:19.Comment
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Actually, I was thinking of some of the editor and gameplay suggestions I've given them over the past few months and not my graphics.Originally posted by Theseus
A master of understatement.
Although, I guess I could show my appreciation by sending them a case-o-brew like some other posters have. Actions speak louder than words.Seemingly Benign
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Originally posted by jdd2007
i think they did a good job as well.
i will certainly buy PtW indeed they have
Well done
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I've said it countless times and I will say it again I do like the work that has been put up behind the civ series. Sid and now Firaxis are doing a great job and I will buy PTW as soon as I can get my hands on it!
So long...
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Ditto.
I'm a fanboy too.
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I have also been impressed with Firaxis & seen some requests made here impact their changes.
Not only is the quantity of patches good, but the quality is good as well. I recall a RTS game in which the designers released many patches, but the patches often brought more bugs & problems then the patches were worth.
I am considering buying PtW partly to show my support for their good work.Comment
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cheers to firaxis...
if only for realizing that sticking with a fanbase like us is a goldmine
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Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna buy PTW and blah blah blah. I love Civ3 for all it is and could be. I just hope that the improvements, expansions, and fixes don't stop when PTW is unleashed on the world."The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Thanks to Firaxis for providing me with all the fun I have had with Civ 3
arty: ! They have really done an excellent job with this game, and my thanks to Sid especially for inventing such a thing that Civ is, and to Soren for writing an excellent AI.
I hope the guys over there at Firaxis are actually reading this thread.
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