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  • Please, take a vote! Pre-realese an concept map-editor

    Computer-generated maps can never be as good as handmade maps. They usually stinks compared to a well-balanced human-edited earth-map, for example.
    Why couldnt Firaxis make a pre-release of a primitive concept Civ-3 mapeditor, so that Apolyton Civ-3 visitors could download it, and then edit some really good handmade maps that Firaxis good pick and choose from?

    Think about it! If only 20 (or more) of us Civ propellerheads contribute with perhaps 2-3 really nice looking well-ballanced maps, we should end up with 40-60 earth-quality maps.

    It would be free unpaid work for Firaxis, and at the same time, it would be fun editing work for us, while we waiting for that elusive Civ-3 release-date.

    [This message has been edited by Ralf (edited September 26, 2000).]

  • #2
    Why should it be free? But, yeah it's a good idea...

    (I thought that Firaxis had hired new graphics artists or something - it's on their page - shouldn't they at least know how to design maps?)

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    • #3
      Sounds like a win-win situation to me!
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      • #4
        I'd take part- just so I could tell my Grandchildren "I made that map on civ 3"
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        • #5
          Hmm.... I'd like to make a map or two. I'd help me hone my mapmaking skills for my scenarios.

          And bragging rights of course.
          *grumbles about work*

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          • #6
            I'm in!!!!! I love making stuff for Civ 2 and Maps are easy.

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            • #7
              Great idea, but I do not know if they would let it be free.

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              • #8
                Nice response! Keep it on - i keep my fingers crossed for at least 20-25 votes before sending this request to Firaxis.

                The problem of formless amoeba-shaped continents sprinkled with random, sometimes incompatible terrain-types is one that is the easiest to remedy. I want Civ-3 continents that actually LOOKS good, with challengeing topographys - not a hopeless ones.

                The crappy map- and terrain-generator of CTP was one of the reasons i really disliked that game so much.

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                • #9
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                  [This message has been edited by The Mad Viking (edited September 28, 2000).]
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                  • #10
                    Great Idea! Count me in.

                    (My 1st visit to CIV3 forum in months)
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                    • #11
                      quote:

                      The problem of formless amoeba-shaped continents sprinkled with random, sometimes incompatible terrain-types is one that is the easiest to remedy.


                      That's a bit harsh - apprently (could be from the manual, can't remember where I got it from) in SMAC Firaxis worked on the terrain generation so that it was realistic. Like deserts would form to the east(/west?) of mountains 'cause all the clouds would deposit the rain on the other side, which would have lush grasslands. I'm sure Firaxis would work quite hard in this aspect.

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                      No, in Australia we don't live with kangaroos and koalas in our backyards... Despite any stupid advertisments you may see to the contrary...
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                      • #12
                        but why does the rain always fall in that direction? What about oceans and air currents?

                        Go for it! Lets see some decent maps done! I would really, really like to see a large world map and a large Europe map done!
                        Das Wasser soll dein Spiegel sein
                        Erst wenn es glatt ist, wirst du sehen
                        Wieviel Märchen dir noch bleibt
                        und um Erlösung wirst du flehen.

                        The water shall be your mirror
                        Only when it's smooth you will see
                        How much fairy-tale is left for you
                        And you will beg for deliverance.

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                        • #13
                          Its for simplicity. We were lucky that they implemented any weather model at all....

                          See what happens when OT posts don't count anymore? Murg was right...
                          *grumbles about work*

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                          • #14
                            Heh, OT does count (now) and I've always posted here no matter what was going on in OT anyway...

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                            No, in Australia we don't live with kangaroos and koalas in our backyards... Despite any stupid advertisments you may see to the contrary...
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                            • #15
                              Same here. I'm glad that Mrk and Dan took our pleas and restored the OT. Now back to a nice, clean on-topic discussion...

                              I have another idea. What if they allowed everyone to get the map editor, and then considered each map and put in the best of the player-created maps?
                              *grumbles about work*

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