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  • Quasar1011
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    Okay, fair enough; I didn't know about the teak decking!

    I can see how it can be argued that WWII ended the industrial era. I'd still say more historians consider it to be the beginning of the modern era.

    But, to get us back on topic...

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  • Panag
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    Originally posted by vmxa1

    At the start of WWII many capitol ships in the USN had teak decking. This was removed after a few fires in WWII.
    Anyway what do you mean by modern? By most definitions any aircraft carier is modern as none existed in the prior to dreadnoughts. Dreadnoughts were in action in WWI.
    hi ,

    so was the worlds first aircraft carrier , ......

    and naval airforces , by 1940 several nations had them , most thanks to the washington treaty , many nations started to change ships like huge battleships into carriers , ....

    most other has naval seaships that could work alongside the ships , and the germans went further , they had the first heli , actually a glorified gyro to work from subs , .....

    and in a way the carrier is modern actually it was its time far ahead , and shall do so even for the next years , with a few modifications like a nuclear reactor , catapults ( they are now looking into magnetic ones ) and an angled deck and glorified mirror with lamps , the carrier has become a magnificent weapons platform

    have a nice day

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  • alva
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    Looks like it's about time for a new forum ....

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  • Master Zen
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    Quasar1011, take a look at Japanese WW2 carriers and you'll find they are actually like the one in the civ pic , plus, no WW2 carrier, neither japanese, british or US looked like modern carriers. steam catapults and angled-deck were all post-war inventions.

    Also, many people also argue that WW2 signaled the end of the industrial era due to the advent of the atomic bomb as well as other technologies which have shaped the modern life, mostly the jet engine, the transistor, etc. which were discovered at the end or shortly after WW2.

    WW2 also marked the end of the Eurocentric political dominance of the world, and the inorexable decline of colonialism, two events which are hallmarks of the modern age.

    So, i'd say there are very good grounds to consider WW2 the end of the industrial era and Civ3 fits that timeframe quite well.
    Last edited by Master Zen; July 11, 2003, 01:20.

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  • Quasar1011
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    Originally posted by panag
    hi ,
    where does it say its modern , .....
    The part where you say
    WWII era aircraft carrier
    . In real life, WWII is modern era. It's not industrial era or ancient era, now is it? Of course, Civ 3 has carriers appearing in the industrial era... but it also allows me to build carriers before I discover flight, so this doesn't make a lot of sense. Anyway, IRL I daresay the modern era of world history began with WWII.

    Originally posted by vmxa1
    At the start of WWII many capitol ships in the USN had teak decking. This was removed after a few fires in WWII.
    Anyway what do you mean by modern? By most definitions any aircraft carier is modern as none existed in the prior to dreadnoughts. Dreadnoughts were in action in WWI.
    That was my point: aircraft carriers are modern. This one just doesn't look modern. It looks like Hiram, King of Tyre, used the cedars of Lebanon on its flight deck
    Last edited by Quasar1011; July 10, 2003, 23:36.

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  • vmxa1
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    Originally posted by Quasar1011
    You sure that aircraft carrier is modern? Looks like it was made out of wood, and was built by the Phoenicians or somebody!
    At the start of WWII many capitol ships in the USN had teak decking. This was removed after a few fires in WWII.
    Anyway what do you mean by modern? By most definitions any aircraft carier is modern as none existed in the prior to dreadnoughts. Dreadnoughts were in action in WWI.

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  • Nym
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    Originally posted by badams52
    Did anyone else notice that Queen Wilhelmina looks like Caesar?
    Yep, quite funny for a queen.
    I suppose it will be changed.

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  • badams52
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    These mostly look like pics from scenarios. I doubt so many changes would be made to vanilla civ.

    Did anyone else notice that Queen Wilhelmina looks like Caesar?

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  • Alex
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    @ Sir Ralph

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  • Harovan
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    It looks as if the volcano eruption was so disgusting, that all people around it had to vomit.

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  • FrustratedPoet
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    I hope (expect?) that it's just a placeholder graphic and that lava will be there eventually.
    /me crosses his fingers.

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  • MattH
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    Why couldn't they have made lava for the volcanoe? It looks like they were lazy, putting that pollution there :doitonow:

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  • Gangerolf
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    Originally posted by panag
    new resource ; parrots and stone balls , ......... and lama's , .....
    and they're strategic resources, not just luxuries. Probably from a South America scenario, no?

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  • Panag
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    Originally posted by Quasar1011
    You sure that aircraft carrier is modern? Looks like it was made out of wood, and was built by the Phoenicians or somebody!
    hi ,

    where does it say its modern , .....

    have a nice day

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  • Quasar1011
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    You sure that aircraft carrier is modern? Looks like it was made out of wood, and was built by the Phoenicians or somebody!

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