Fleets!

[Destroyer]

What about having sea-bourne versions of armies. Or would it be slightly pointless because of the general pointlessness of having ships (unless escorting a transport).

[stonewall]

Question: If ships are pointless (exception not withstanding), then how do you deal with enemy ships bombarding your cities and destroying your terrain improvements?

[Carver]

As is, ships are the only way (save ICBMs) to project your power onto another continent, that's important. I think "fleets" would be a great addition to naval warfare. At least there's supposed to be some sort of stack movement for ships in PTW.

[Destroyer]

Originally posted by stonewall
Question: If ships are pointless (exception not withstanding), then how do you deal with enemy ships bombarding your cities and destroying your terrain improvements?

I tend to ignore them, as the AI has a tendancy to build huge fleets, and I can never match them, until later in the game. Production is always better served else where. Until there is some sort of trade route that can be attacked, ship are a total waste ,apart from transportation (in my opinion).

And as for aircraft....

[connorkimbro]

I tend to ignore them, as the AI has a tendancy to build huge fleets, and I can never match them, until later in the game. Production is always better served else where. Until there is some sort of trade route that can be attacked, ship are a total waste ,apart from transportation (in my opinion).

You must not be a very good player.

Ok, don't get offended, i'm just kidding. Well, partly.

[notyoueither]

I enjoy tooling around on the seas once DDs come on the scene. Prior to that I seldom have the spare production to build much more than a few gallies, caravels and ironclads.

Of course, I don't usually play archpeligo maps. My builds might be different in that case.

[Destroyer]

[SIZE=1] You must not be a very good player.

The best, my friend, the best...

[Wormwood]

Originally posted by Destroyer


I tend to ignore them, as the AI has a tendancy to build huge fleets, and I can never match them, until later in the game. Production is always better served else where. Until there is some sort of trade route that can be attacked, ship are a total waste ,apart from transportation (in my opinion).

And as for aircraft....

I don't often notice the AI building HUGE fleets, but perhaps the term is relative. The AI seems to have some of the problems with ships that it has with ground units: It still uses obsolete units well into ind/mod age. My modern fleet of CV, BB, DD runs into a motley crew of frigates, ironclads, DD's, and even a galley all the time.

[candybo]

Originally posted by stonewall [/SIZE]
Question: If ships are pointless (exception not withstanding), then how do you deal with enemy ships bombarding your cities and destroying your terrain improvements?





I build Artys, then bombers, just to bombard 'em. Once injured, they go home for repairs. Not a perfect solution, but better then sending ships after 'em, as they'll just gang up on YOUR ship, and then you would need to build another and another....

[Panag]

hi ,

, fleets , .... nope , not intrested , ....

but , it would be nice to open with your mouse a small window at the ocean , this should activate all units inside the window , and then direct them at one point , they would all arrive at the same time there , ...

now , that would be

have a nice day

[Cyclotron]

I like it, but how would a seaborne leader look? It couldn't be a normal leader, because you might have no transport... he would be just standing in the middle of the sea. Perhaps sea leaders could look like little pt boats or an admirals' barge or something...

[Admiral PJ]

A sea leader could build a Flagship.. this could be like the army unit, and can lead your fleets to battle.
a Sea leader would have to go back to the nearest port or friendly city, once its been created by a ship.

Another good effect of this would be to be able to name leader ships, like the Mary Rose, or Cutty Sark, or Bismark.

It would be nice to have someone like Nelson as a sealeader.

[Galvatron]

Sea Leaders? A very good idea. Than we can duck out some naval battle of De Villeneuve against Nelson wohoo.

Concerning the importance of ships it depends on which map you are playing. When it’s almost one big continent than ships are of course useless on an inland world you will be doomed without it. I tend to build a large army and in between a smaller fleet so just enough to be respected by the others as a seapower and so they don't bombard my harbours.

[Deathwalker]

Personally I would like to see the whole of the naval aspect improved. For example setting up the game so a ship in the middle of an oceon has a chance of intersepting trade. Like WW2 U Boats

[campmajor!]

Yes, it is all dependant on which map you play on. At the moment I play on a large Pangea map. There is only one small island, but it is already taken (of course) by the AI. Still i build one galley, just for scouting the map.

But usually I play on continents or archipelago and then you definitely need them. And an army-unit for the seas would be great then! I think it will be more useful than the army unit on land.