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  • #16
    In my opinion, the Riflemen in Civ III Represents the Civil War years and the introduction to riffled guns and Breachloading rifles. The French Musketmen represents the Musketeer in the 30 Years War. While the Musketmen represents the Arquebus and the introduction of firearms. The Infantry unit represents a trooper during World War I and the indroduction of Ammo Clips.
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    • #17
      The Rifleman if you look closely represents b nineteenth century armies in general, the Prussian infantry looked similair to this in the Austro-Prussian war.
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      • #18
        When I was testing the limits of the combat engine in this game, I found that not until Rfileman, was my 200/200 attack/defense test unit was killed, and in fact killed by more Rifleman then any other. I think there is a little extra code in the game for them somehow.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Civfan01
          In my opinion, the Riflemen in Civ III Represents the Civil War years and the introduction to riffled guns and Breachloading rifles.
          Yes, in theory. Riflemen also should never be defeated by cavalry alone.

          The French Musketmen represents the Musketeer in the 30 Years War. While the Musketmen represents the Arquebus and the introduction of firearms. The Infantry unit represents a trooper during World War I and the indroduction of Ammo Clips.
          Huh? There is no French mkusketman; it is the musketeer.

          In my mod we have TWO TYPES: the basic with the slow, heavy arquebus, and the latter more powerful and more offensive version with a lighter gun and armed with the bayonet. Firaxis doesn't bother to do this as they don't care about realism.

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          • #20
            Well, I see your point DeepO but still I've done it in order to make resources much more valuable. I am not much interested in the historical or real life accuracy but more on why get a "free unit", it makes it easy for those that had no luck to find strategic resources up to the point but I do not see why!? If the AI or me had the bad luck not to have Saltpeper (I've also increased the Appearance Ratio by 10) we will have to fight/scout/trade for one.

            If at some point it proves to be unbalancing my game I will mod back though.

            So long....
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            • #21
              Well, maybe you've done it already, but wouldn't a better idea be that you set resource requirements for buildings? It may not be the most realistic thing, but you could mod all power plants to require saltpeter for instance. I don't care much that it would be unrealistic the riflemen don't require saltpeter, but I think there should be a unit that doesn't require anything. It's purely a gameplay issue...

              DeepO

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              • #22
                Shouldn't the Rifleman icon have a bayonet, too?
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                • #23
                  The fact is that starting in the Civil War, the bayonet gained very little usage. Sure every soldier had one but it was very rarely actualy used, for historical accuracy sure they should have one but for actual effectiveness the bayonet realy fell by the wayside starting in the 1800s.
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                  • #24
                    That's right. As soon as the firing speed of handguns increased, the chance for enemy cavalry to reach the infantry lines decreased. The better rifles, the less use for bayonets.

                    We should decide what weapons should be represented in Civ, and the relative difference in strength between them.
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